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Posted on 09/13/2006 8:21:18 PM PDT by bannie

I keep seeing people drag public school teachers down. If you don't like what teachers are doing, direct conservative people--your children?--into the profession so that it can be changed. That was what the liberals did in the '50's and '60's.


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To: bannie

Conservatives tend to have more ambitious goals than becoming school teachers.


21 posted on 09/13/2006 8:40:27 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I can't think of one thing more ambitious than to teach--except parenthood.


22 posted on 09/13/2006 8:44:22 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: bannie
That was what the liberals did in the '50's and '60's.


So, we had a VLW Conspiracy to flood the schools with logically deficient teachers?
23 posted on 09/13/2006 8:49:01 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: goodnesswins

I don't think it's the teachers people have problems with....it's the UNIONS!

True, and the fact that education is a government monopoly. Unions only want one thing, more for their members, government bureaucracies want one thing, absolute power. Until we can open up education to non union competition more conservatives won't change the nature of the beast.


24 posted on 09/13/2006 8:50:49 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: crazyhorse691

Yes.




We did.


25 posted on 09/13/2006 8:54:34 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: dawn53
And many are doing just that. They are encouraging their children to homeschool.

That's the plan! (Although in reality my mother is a barking moonbat and thinks homeschooling is satan.)

I was invited to come back and teach math as a long-term sub at my former high school, but unfortunately could not get tested in time.
26 posted on 09/13/2006 8:55:28 PM PDT by Shion (Jaded Southern Californian)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Conservatives tend to have more ambitious goals than becoming school teachers.

Nothing wrong with being ambitious, but someone has to do the hard jobs, too.

27 posted on 09/13/2006 8:57:19 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: bannie
Teachers, especially in urban areas like Detroit are unionists first, civil servants second, socialist libs third, and dems fourth.  The Detroit teachers ended their strike today. (They didn't like their contract but knew their strike by state law was illegal and they were about to get fired or jailed).

Detroit is the worst urban edumukashunal sistum in da kuntry in spite of the all the state, fed, and local dollars dropped on it.

The few that graduate from HS are ill-equipped for a community college.

To be sure it is totally NOT FAIR to blame teachers for a failed city, (make that 'society') but the teacher's unions still perpetuate the same circumstances that lead them there in the first place.

In my state that dwarfs the nation in unemployment, has a Canuck socialist for gubner, two nitwit leftist senators, and even more corrupt locals than New Orleans could produce. 

And these people want more of the same, repeatedly.

One cannot send a few conservatives into Detroit any more than a few brave troops can win the peace in Iraq or a beat cop can take down a gang in DC.

The whole stinkin' urban culture needs to evolve if they want any chance for success and that won't include one's self with more democrats, or it will continue to mire perpetually.

And that begins with not giving a damn about Chafee, Lieberman, and other RINO ilk and dem Kennedy-type pork passers.

28 posted on 09/13/2006 9:02:14 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: bannie
your children?--into the profession so that it can be changed

That's EXACTLY what my son and daughter in law did. They became teachers, and home school my two grand kids.

29 posted on 09/13/2006 9:05:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: bannie
Actually, only bona-fide conservatives who are secure in who they are and their beliefs will survive. I am a teacher of over 10 years and was mostly apolitical throughout college, as I had other priorities as an undergrad(getting papers done, having a social life).
If you are not secure in your beliefs, you can end up like David Soutter and the other 'conservatives' who 'grew' while on the bench. If you are competent you will be fine and the liberals wont bother you. They are outspoken, but it doesn't bother me.
31 posted on 09/13/2006 9:10:21 PM PDT by DuxFan4ever (The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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To: bannie
I keep seeing people drag public school teachers down. If you don't like what teachers are doing, direct conservative people--your children?--into the profession so that it can be changed.

Change the pUBlik skOOl system???

What makes you think it can be changed? You are either nuts or just want to start a conversation.

The last job I would recommend to my kids is public school teacher.

It is easier to switch to private schools, homeschooling or charter schools. Jeez.
32 posted on 09/13/2006 9:15:24 PM PDT by gipper81 (When the pilgrims landed in Plymouth in 1620-nobody asked: "Where is my federal assistance program?")
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To: kingu
One student teacher I knew was paired with a teacher who had no control over his classroom, didn't bother to grade papers because everyone would get the questions wrong anyway, and simply gave a 'feeling' grade at the end of the semester.

The bad teachers are often the best example. After working with an ineffective teacher, a person who is reflective will learn how to do things in a way that is more effective. If you are not a reflective person or have a thin skin, being a teacher is not the profession to be in. Most of the extreme lib teachers are very cynical and unhappy people.

33 posted on 09/13/2006 9:15:24 PM PDT by DuxFan4ever (The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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To: bannie
Here is a better idea. Abolish unions, abolish certification, let anyone with a bachelors degree willing to show up for work teach. Next abolish the monopoly and replace it with pay following the students wherever their parents like. Then you will see conservatives teach. Nobody is going to go through the Stalinist agitprop programs to salute union goons and brown nose forty administrators just to stand in front of the kids. It is hopelessly absurd. And incidentally, I've seen public school systems in which the roofs leak and the students have no textbooks, but the administration buildings are literally paved with pink marble. You can't tell me the system isn't entirely run for the teachers and educrats, nor that it isn't a huge scam from start to finish, as well as a purveyor of the worst left wing propaganda. It is busted and it should be smashed.
34 posted on 09/13/2006 9:18:46 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: gipper81
The last job I would recommend to my kids is public school teacher. It is easier to switch to private schools, homeschooling or charter schools. Jeez.

Consider that Jesus didn't use his ministry to teach to the elites. He went into the places where the sick and the poor were. Taking the easy way out is not the way to reap the big rewards that come with being there for those who most need you.

35 posted on 09/13/2006 9:19:11 PM PDT by DuxFan4ever (The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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To: bannie

I say take either send your kids to private school or homeschool. That way, the pubschool teachers get that smaller class size they are always b--ching about, and the classes will consist of a greater proportion of kids who really need all the free help they can get because their parents sure don't care about them.

95% of public school teachers (and administrators) give the other 5% a bad name.

You asked for it.


36 posted on 09/13/2006 9:21:11 PM PDT by 308MBR (islam; so easy a caveman could do it)
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To: Right Wing Assault
School teacher is not a hard job. Tell it to a marine.
37 posted on 09/13/2006 9:22:13 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: DuxFan4ever

"Consider that Jesus didn't use his ministry to teach to the elites. He went into the places where the sick and the poor were. Taking the easy way out is not the way to reap the big rewards that come with being there for those who most need you."

You're exactly right.
The ones who need conservative teachers the most are the poor kids stuck in the system.
Who is going to teach them? Should they be left to the wolves? Or will conservatives help them?

It is very easy to say "I'll only work at a private/parochial school - or homeschool. And those systems have their benefits to be sure...
But there are still kids stuck back at the public school, and they need sane rational teachers.


38 posted on 09/13/2006 9:25:54 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: JasonC
School teacher is not a hard job.

Then why are there so few people who can do it well? Some of the best ones are former marines. They wanted another challenge.

39 posted on 09/13/2006 9:28:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: mysterio

A big thanks to your parents! My father was a teacher also and he was top notch!


40 posted on 09/13/2006 9:30:44 PM PDT by bonfire
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