Posted on 09/12/2006 10:51:48 PM PDT by dangus
This is pure horse hockey and nobody who really knows need not see any more to know that dangus has no idea what he is talking about.
Yo! Dangus! Ever notice the letter G on a masonic ring? It doesn't stand for Lucifer! Are you getting a clue now?
What's your opinion on free silver, eh?
-ccm
As far as Mason founders, you need to read more. The MAJORITY were Masons. Our form of government comes from the Bible and Masonic teaching.
Become a Mason and you can find all these things out.
Navyblue, would you like to visit the National Masonic Memorial in Alexandria, and examine the references to Lucifer? I saw what I saw with my own eyes. But as I said, it is not Satanic; I just find it amusing that all the Baptist Masons out there get all worked up about Catholic "idolatry" while belonging to a Luciferian society.
Ahh, you're getting into sentential logic now, which is generall considered passe on FR.
Would you like to meet an Anti-Masonic Whig?
...well, Old Whig, to be precise. But I am against the gold standard.
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Heeeere we go again!
:^D
Actually, this started out with me simply discovering the list of black freemasons; I was researching Kweisi Mfume, and had just written about Bob Dole's anticonservative PAC, IMP-PAC. Both were for a thread about the primaries. I was surprised to discover Mfume was a freemason, so followed the link. There I discovered many of the anti-conservative Republicans, like Ford, Dole, etc. I started to categorize the nationally prominent politicians, and only then realized that, while there weren't THAT many Masonic presidents, the core of evil Supreme Court justices (Warren, Marshall, et al) were all on the list, and they were all from the same time. Then I decided to see if they formed a majority clique...
Why is Paul Tsongas flying a UFO?
Where did you EVER get the idea I was Anti-Catholic? I'm most known for my blistering defenses of Catholicism!
Also note the Masonic symbols on the dollar bill and in the Great Seal.
Freemasonry is not a cult and no matter how many times you say it is, won't make it one.
You are just plain wrong and misinformed.
navyblue wrote: "There is a Masonic lodge right here in Los Angeles county that has a Catholic priest as a member. It is not generally known, but the Church has no real objection as long as you don't go into the higher degrees. The Scotish Rite in particular."
Thanks for the information, Navyblue. The Catholic priest Mason I had heard about had not divulged it to his Diocese.
Also I hadn't heard that anyone would be restricted from Scottish Rite, except if they did not take the required coursework and pass the tests.
The difficulty in determining who is a Mason and who is not a Mason is that only men who are Masons are allowed entry into a Lodge. When a Mason sees another at Lodge, then that Mason can be certain that the other person is also a Mason.
The exception is during Lodge family events where non Mason family members are invited to Lodge family events.
Cuz he's gettin' ready to buzz your house! ;-)
George Washington and many of the founders were Masons. Seems to me that they did a pretty good of establishing this nation. We continue to prosper and thrive because of their wisdom in creating the institutions of this country. Find another boogieman to scare us with.
BTW The Knights Templar were not prosecuted by the Church for war crimes during the Crusades.
" In the early 1300s, King Philip IV of France (also known as "Philip the Fair") was in desperate need of money to continue his war with the English. On Friday, October 13, 1307 (a date possibly linked to the origin of the Friday the 13th legend), Philip had all French Templars simultaneously arrested, charged with numerous heresies, and tortured by French authorities nominally under the Inquisition until they allegedly confessed. This action released Philip from his obligation to repay huge loans from the Templars and justified his looting of Templar treasuries. In 1312 due to public opinion and scandal, and under pressure from King Philip (who had been responsible for maneuvering Pope Clement V into the Vatican), Clement officially disbanded the Order at the Council of Vienne. Even though all their lands were supposed to be turned over to the Hospitallers, Phillip retained a great deal of the Templar assets in France. Some other European leaders followed suit in an effort to reduce the amount of Church-owned lands and property. In 1314 three Templar leaders, including Grand Master Jacques De Molay, Hugh De Perault and Godfrey De Goneville were burned alive at the stake by French authorities after publicly renouncing any guilt.
Remaining Templars around Europe, having been arrested and tried under the Papal investigation (with virtually none convicted), were either absorbed into other military orders such as the Order of Christ and the Knights Hospitaller or contemplative Benedictine or Augustinian orders; returned to the secular life with pension; and in some cases possibly fled to other territories outside of Papal control such as England and excommunicated Scotland. But questions still remain as to what happened to the few hundreds of Templars across Europe, or to the fleet of Templar ships which, according to novels like 'Holy Blood and Holy Grail' vanished from La Rochelle on October 13, 1307. Also, the extensive archive of the Templars, with detailed records of all of their business holdings and financial transactions, was never found, though it is unknown whether it was destroyed, or moved to another location, or ever existed in the first place.
In modern times, it is the Roman Catholic Church's position that the persecution was unjust; that there was nothing inherently wrong with the Order or its Rule; and that the Pope at the time was severely pressured into suppressing them by the magnitude of the public scandal and the dominating influence of King Philip IV. In 1556, a copy of the Chinon Parchment was discovered by Dr. Frale in the Vatican Secret Archives. The parchment gave direct documented evidence and a new perspective on the Knights Templar and overturned some of the centuries-old myths and misconceptions that have grown around the Order."
I find some of their mythology silly, but I don't even know first-hand that they actually believe any of it. Beyond that, I don't have much of an opinion. I should also add that the person who taught me about the knights' influence on the development of Switzerland was a freemason; I should have been careful to make the point that it is Masonic legend, and that it is not me asserting its truth.
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