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JonBenet
Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | August 30, 2006 | DOROTHY RABINOWITZ

Posted on 08/30/2006 4:39:05 AM PDT by libstripper

Two days into the JonBenet Ramsey/John Karr media deluge, a mid-fortyish male in line next to me at a food shop groaned at the day's newspaper headlines. "Now," muttered this stranger--though he wore a baseball cap with bill turned backward, which suggested a few things about him one could know right off--"now we're not going to hear about anything but this damned story for the next six weeks."

I sympathized, forbearing to tell him that it would have plenty of competition, what with the networks set to embark on round-the-clock wallowing in the Katrina anniversary.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: casaloma; classenvy; dorothyrabinowitz; jonbennet; rabinowitz; ramsey; theparentsdidnotdoit; theramseysareguilty
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To: commish

The DNA is a male's. It also may not be the killer's. JBR may have transferred it herself from an outside source of debris under her fingernails, acquired earlier in the day.


241 posted on 08/30/2006 4:16:42 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: JRochelle

The first responding cop did NOT open the door. Someone in the family had told him it was painted shut. It wasn't, it was latched at the top.

Fleet White did go and open the door but couldn't find the light switch which wasn't in a normal place on the wall, glanced into the darkness and didn't look around the wall that juts out from the left side of door.

He didn't see her body or the white blanket on the floor because he didn't look down or around that lefthand wall. No one was looking for a dead body, the missing kid had allegedly been taken by abductors. She was on the floor, just to the left of where the wall obstructs the view.


242 posted on 08/30/2006 4:23:42 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Protagoras

They didn't know who did what and if accused at that time, double jeopardy would attach.


243 posted on 08/30/2006 4:26:31 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Ditter

The garotte wasn't twisted, it was a slip knot that was pulled by the paintbrush handle.


244 posted on 08/30/2006 4:27:37 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Twinkie

How leisurely a ramble would you take through someone's house when you had no idea when they would be back or even where they went?


245 posted on 08/30/2006 4:29:31 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: ReaganandDubyaForever

For "heaven's sake" - they were all over TV with their religiosity. Going to their church, coming out of their church, talking with their pastor, who was one of the friends summoned to the house when the ransom note was discovered, on and on.

The ironic part is that their own profiler that they hired, because they needed their own cops to keep them out of jail, had them put out a flyer asking people to turn in tips on anyone they noted who had "suddenly turned to religion" in the days following JonBenet's death.

BTW, they never gave out the tipline phone number until years later and when they did, it was the wrong number - went to a family's house in CO who were very upset. THAT number they put permanently in their book, so many would see it.


246 posted on 08/30/2006 4:34:21 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: MplsSteve

The BDA in charge of the case now (cops have been out of it for years) said there is nothing left that has not been put out in the public domain.

In fact, that's what enabled Karr to do what he did. He knew stuff that most case followers know, but the DA didn't! She even said that Patsy gave the bracelet to JonBenet for Christmas, which is only half the story.

It was a gift from JonBenet's Aunt Pam, in a set with the necklace she had on when she died, as well. And Patsy let JonBenet open it on 12/23 at the children's Christmas party, as an early gift.

I don't expect Mary Lacy to know these things herself - I hope she's busier than that - but someone on her staff *should* know these things, so that people like Karr can't pull the wool over their eyes, as he did.


247 posted on 08/30/2006 4:39:37 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: JRochelle

Oh, I see. If the BPD said something you agreed with, then they were telling the truth? Like clearing Burke? Otherwise, they were bumbling and inept liars?


248 posted on 08/30/2006 4:42:57 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Red Badger
First, I'm sorry you have a deranged brother. That seems so small and weak to type here. But I truly am sorry you have had to deal with that.

Second, people in general just can't get their minds around a child killer. A bad seed, if you will. It is hard to get some people to click on to how that can and does happen. Not to promote her here but I saw an Oprah show that featured parents of children who seriously feared their very young kids were going to kill them or their siblings.

Last, I admit I'm one who always felt the family, possibly including Burke is involved in the murder. When they nabbed Karr I did not feel like ok, I guess I've been wrong because this guy did it. To me it is not that black and white. Even if someone else did do it I think the Ramseys covered things up and protected the killer.

I know I'd bad for judging them like that. Just saying my opinion that is not worth the paper it isn't printed on.
249 posted on 08/30/2006 4:43:29 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Rte66

They did give out the wrong phone number.Did they ever change it on their website or mailings?


250 posted on 08/30/2006 4:44:11 PM PDT by fatima
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To: DTA

You are probably right about the pedophile aspect of it. I have actually had relatives (by marriage) who kept their little girl in one pageant after another all through her childhood. The couple thought their little girl was going to be "Miss America" or something real famous one day. As far as I know, neither ever happened. This family was redneck and spent lots of money they probably couldn't really afford on that nonsense. Pedophiles would be making a killing on the fees for those contests.

What few high school "beauty contests" I was ever in back in my day I totally regret now. At the time, classmates nominated and voted on that kind of stuff, with the local big shots acting as "judges" recruited to watch us little teenage girls bumble around the stage and deciding which one of us was the "cutest" or some such nonsense. It only served to cause other girls to hate us. My parents certainly didn't ever put me forward for any such foolishness; in fact, they came from a one-room schoolhouse background and didn't understand it. We weren't even as well-dressed and haute couture and prissy as the six year olds are now.

Yep. Most of what passes for entertainment now got its start in a most purportedly "innocent" way with Shirley Temple, shoot 'em up cowboys, then gradually grew more and more wicked in its presentation from Elvis the Pelvis (he had a good voice, of course) to where now the public thinks nothing of watching nearly nude women in dance contests showing their privates in all sorts of gyrations. . and, of course, the public eats it up because the people are so "attractive". Nothing is taboo any more, and so the pedophile and sexual predator has a steady diet of stimulation to move them to action. . then, too, the young girls are influenced by Britney Spears (who can afford a body guard) to dress like sluts and entice, tease and expect to escape problems.

And so . . "the people perish for lack of knowledge."


251 posted on 08/30/2006 4:48:27 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: ReaganandDubyaForever

Well I am waiting


252 posted on 08/30/2006 4:56:18 PM PDT by al baby
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To: fatima

No, they didn't. The website was very often offline and only had two items on it - the garotte and the cord. You were to email the tips to the Ramseys.

Sure thing!


253 posted on 08/30/2006 4:58:07 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Well they did get emails,proof is in the Karr.God bless them and I mean that and it might have been poor management-the people in charge of the website but I turned the DA off after 10 minutes when she said Karr cried and said he tasted the blood.We all knew there was saliva mixed in the blood from a sneeze-everybody knew that.I just started reading the case a month ago and I knew.Wonder how much they get paid.


254 posted on 08/30/2006 5:08:30 PM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima

Too much


255 posted on 08/30/2006 5:13:13 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Oh goodness, people leave paper and pens laying around on table tops and desk tops out in the open all the time. I can just about guarantee an intruder could find notebook paper in any school kids room in about two minutes at the most, or typing paper in the printer on the computer desktop in two minutes as well.


256 posted on 08/30/2006 5:16:24 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Rte66

Well if they read all his emails why didn't someone take the time to see what info was online.The topper was when she said about the braclet and then they realized that info was out there.I waited for their secret evidence but guess what-she said everything is out there.They went by a cry and a taste and when you think about it, is was all up to the drop of DNA in the blood.They had no case but they could have built one before they brought him back.They needed more-he walks free and I think this case is dead.


257 posted on 08/30/2006 5:20:11 PM PDT by fatima
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To: al baby

Keep on waitin'. Nothin I say will satisfy you. I wasn't wanting to hold a debate, I was simply making a comment that we (myself included) judge people too quickly.


258 posted on 08/31/2006 3:32:40 AM PDT by ReaganandDubyaForever (Our God is an Awesome God)
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To: soccermom
Okay, look. I am going to be honest with you. I grabbed a video of A&E's Investigative Reports from 2000 on this case for a refresher course because I wanted to rely on something other than what the hell I remembered about the case.

While I was disappointed because the program seemed to lean in favor of the Ramseys while not even asking pertinent questions, it now seems they did not contact their attorney first upon finding the body. For that, I stand corrected. They did, however, move the body and along with the Boulder PD allowed the crime scene to be hopelessly contaminated.

259 posted on 08/31/2006 5:46:14 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: Rte66
They didn't know who did what

Thank you for agreeing.

The proof against them is precisely the same as against you.

None.

260 posted on 08/31/2006 6:14:23 AM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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