Posted on 08/26/2006 9:33:29 PM PDT by Ken H
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060827/SPORTS07/60821040/1061&theme=FOOTBALLGUIDE
Negative news continues to plague Duke
6am? He was drunk on his ass.
It's just another shakedown.org. Whatever they get through their demands and extortion, it will never be enough, according to them. But imo, 6 trillion in welfare is enough.
I think he was drunk too. It seems he was going away from Durham. Rather large intersection to run a Red-light, I'd say.
We heard that he's a regular at the Bar where the incident he's being investigated took place.
He will be destroyed. If he had any brains at all, he'd have left it alone. I hope the SOB gets charged with perjury.
He probably drank most of the night and started nodding off when he ran the light.
BTW, does anybody know if there's a Mrs. Gottlieb (no, I don't mean his mother, lol!)?
Ken H.
Thanks for the information. LieStoppers is fantastic - and they're getting noticed and getting quite a reputation for getting the scoop. Their writers are second only to Mark Gottlieb.
But, some of the detectives on FR are second to none.
I've forwarded about three items, in the past, provided by Protect the Bill Rights to National Newspapers - and twice the reaction was like - "Is this Right?" So, I know they were unaware.
At some point, FR, Liestoppers, and others are gonna cause a tipping point and I expect some changes are going to be necessitated in Durham.
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I think you drove the nail right through the 2 x 4 !
I am not sure if he was drunk but I wouldn't doubt he was. I think he just might have been drinking heavily the night before. He got up to go to work and fell asleep at the wheel and ran the light. I think if they gave him a test he might have barley passed it. But I don't think he would have volunteered for one. You take this incident and his role in the beating of the black fry cook and put them together. Your looking at a man who is probably a alcoholic. I have know a few alcoholics that would be late all the time because they oversleep. I have also been around a people that were the nicest people around when sober. But you get them drinking and they would get mean. This wouldn't be the first case of a cop with a drinking problem either.
I wouldn't doubt if he is a regular at a number of places that sell or serve alcohol.
But, Pepperhead - one thing -
He's not going towards Durham. From the address on the Accident report and the direction of travel - he's coming home at 6:00 in the morning.
thanks
Pepperhead,
Another troubling thing about Gottlieb (and the supposed Police investigation of him) - is that at Blincos he was involved in that alleged attack, regardless of to what degree.
One of the Officers, in another group apparently, told the cook the guys were drunk. I think someone inside essentially said the same thing. But, what does Gottlieb do - HEAD of INVESTIGATIONS for DPD? He leaves the scene!
How can that be in line with upholding the law or fulfilling his obligations to the community?
The fact that he fled the scene, leads me to believe he probably was Drunk at Blincos.
The fact that he didn't report what he observed and that he fled the scene - those two things alone - should result in formal discipline by the Department.
This was posted over on the WTVD board this morning. Interesting thoughts on the makeup of the Potbangers...
Re: Re: LMAO...starring Precious' alleged cousin Jakki O'Night - Queen 2005 Author: roper53668 reply
Yes, they're for real. And for the most part, they are decent, kind people who simply live an alternative lifestyle.
But not all of them. It is well known that in the beginning of this Duke incident, a large percentage of the most aggressive "pot-bangers" were extremists out of the gay-lesbian-transgender community. Many of these people hate heterosexual men, regardless of race, and will not pass up an opportunity to join in on the attack, when the opportunity presents itself.
So it may be a coincidence that "Cousin Jakki" decided to insert herself into this process (it now appears that the AV has claimed that neither she nor her family ever asked Jakki to assume the role of family spokesperson). But then again, it may not.
And for the good people in the TG community... I don't mean to offend... but all communities have their "bad apples"... and the extremists haters... they're for real.
Posted: 8/27/06 5:23 AM
I wouldn't doubt he was drunk that night. But 6am on a weekday? He would have to be drinking at someones house or at home since bars shut down late at night.
. . . . . . . . . . . NOT looking good for Gottlieb,
. . Neff, from the News and Observer weighs in:
http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/479650.html
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From NEFF:
"The Duke Hospital medical records make no mention of blunt force trauma. The sexual assault examination form has a section where the examiner is told to "Describe all signs of physical trauma." Levicy wrote that the woman had two nonbleeding scratches on her right knee and a nonbleeding scratch on her right heel.
Under "Physical Examination," the nurse noted diffuse swelling of the vagina. The nurse left all other parts of the pelvic examination section blank, including the line for a rectal exam."
AND
"According to Gottlieb's typed account of the interview, the woman was in great pain and became emotional: "Tears ran down her face freely and her nose began to run." Gottlieb noted that "the victim stated she had bruising that was beginning to show up from the assault," 60 hours after the party. He ordered Investigator R.A. Reid to take photographs, and noted that "Reid stated she had the onset of new bruises present."
HOWEVER, "Reid's typed report makes no mention of bruises, only a cut heel, a cut toe and bandages on both knees. Reid's photographs of the accuser's face and neck show no bruises."
http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/479650.html
Looks like we'll have to add more words to the lexicon: "Gottliebed." Or maybe: "Gottliebery." How about: "Gottliebulate." Lots of possibilities here...
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