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Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade (Re Sgt. Gottlieb - NY Times Star Witness, Duke Rape Hoax)
Liestoppers ^ | 08-26-2006 | Tony Soprano of Court TV Board Fame

Posted on 08/26/2006 9:33:29 PM PDT by Ken H

Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade

I don't mind a reasonable amount of trouble. If I did, would you find me in those dark hours, eyeing some broad at Blinco's, about to find myself in the middle of the biggest story to hit town in years?

I'm Tony Soprano of the Court TV discussion board fame. No, not the guy on that TV show. I just took his moniker cause it gave me cover like a cheap toupee when a fella's follicles are few. I'm not afraid of cops like Gottlieb. I was there the night the caper with the fry cook went down.

Did I see it? No.

Gottlieb and I rub each other the wrong way, like a cheap wool suit you've had one year too long. Things were tense that night, my friends. I shot off my mouth a few times.

As Gottlieb passed my barstool, he leaned in close. I could see the oily sweat on his shiny bald head. "Keep riding on me and they're gonna be picking iron out of your liver." He straightened up and, with his posse following him, sauntered out the door into the alley. What happened next, well, that's the most baffling mystery story in years.

A friend of mine, a newsie, was in Blinco's a few nights later. "Tony, Have the barkeep pour me some of that booze you're drinking, and I'll tell you a story you might want to hear." "Good booze makes any tale you're going to tell one I want to hear." I motioned for him to pull out the barstool beside me. We waited till the dame serving us gave me a wink and sauntered back to the bar.

"Did you see Gottlieb's picture on the front page of the local rag. Did you read the piece saying his boss Nifong should be worried he's going down for the Blinco's gig?'

"Yeah, me and half the town saw that. What's your beef? Gottlieb's days as a Big Shot Bully are as numbered as a Currier and Ives calendar. The cook ratted him out, said the "Bald guy" was the instigator. Of the coppers here that night, Gottlieb fit that description like a Hong Kong suit you had made to order. He's as finished as a Dame from an East Coast Boarding school. He's going down.

The newsie smiled, took another sip of his drink. "Not so fast, Tony, Gottlieb may have hired a lawyer, but he ain't gonna take the fall. Our big story tomorrow is two young cops will take the rap for him. No way bossman Nifong will let his boy Gottlieb go down till the Dukies are duked out." I took a drag on my cigarette and watched the smoke curl across the table. The newsie leaned in and pushed copy of the morning's paper my way.

Our eyes met again as I glanced at the photos of the two cops charged."

But they have hair! Their heads look like lucky sheep who ran from a careless shearer. No way they fit the Cook's description. And Gottlieb lawyered up faster than a railroad car on an icy stretch of track!"

"Exactly. Nifong's the boss. He ain't gonna let no stinking fry cook ruin the best campaign strategy since Washington rowed across a frosty river in Delaware. Gottlieb's the chief investigator. Three months later, he turned in ...pages of notes. His recollection of events added details to Nifong's case like a New York seamstress adds sequins to a songbird's gown. Gottlieb's in solid with the boss."

I sat in stunned silence, not even a come hither look from the comely barmaid could stop my thoughts. The newsie took another sip of the bourbon I bought him.

"It ain't the first time either. One morning. around 6AM, Gottlieb ran a red light and rammed his car into another guy's ride right here in Raleigh. When the smoke cleared, Mr.Nobody's car had $7000 worth of damage. Our man Gottlieb didn't even get a ticket. Tony, if that was you or me, think the Raleigh cops would let it slide like a fried egg on a greasy stove?"

I leaned back. The newsie smiled a knowing smile. "Ain't gonna happen, Tony. Watch and see. The guy with the smashed car, the poor fry cook here that got knocked around? They are NOBODYS, Tony. And NOBODY cares." My beat can be ugly, my friends. The night can be cold. But this story chilled me like a eager bridegroom's champagne waiting to be uncorked. But it's not over yet. Tony Soprano doesn't go down easy.

******Footnote: Unlike some OTHER fiction writers LieStoppers feels the need to distinguish fiction from fact. Should the NYT wish to carry this story, LieStoppers will insist they disclose the difference. Tony Soprano was NOT in Blinco's the night of the Fry Cook beating, but we link to the basic facts of the story that ARE true.

[Links are at Liestoppers, and will be listed in posts to follow]


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax
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http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060827/SPORTS07/60821040/1061&theme=FOOTBALLGUIDE
Negative news continues to plague Duke


21 posted on 08/27/2006 1:45:57 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: pepperhead

6am? He was drunk on his ass.


22 posted on 08/27/2006 2:13:56 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

It's just another shakedown.org. Whatever they get through their demands and extortion, it will never be enough, according to them. But imo, 6 trillion in welfare is enough.


23 posted on 08/27/2006 2:19:02 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle; All

I think he was drunk too. It seems he was going away from Durham. Rather large intersection to run a Red-light, I'd say.

We heard that he's a regular at the Bar where the incident he's being investigated took place.


24 posted on 08/27/2006 2:19:33 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: abb

He will be destroyed. If he had any brains at all, he'd have left it alone. I hope the SOB gets charged with perjury.


25 posted on 08/27/2006 2:20:43 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Mike Nifong

He probably drank most of the night and started nodding off when he ran the light.


26 posted on 08/27/2006 2:22:06 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Mike Nifong

BTW, does anybody know if there's a Mrs. Gottlieb (no, I don't mean his mother, lol!)?


27 posted on 08/27/2006 2:22:55 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Ken H; Protect the Bill of Rights; All

Ken H.

Thanks for the information. LieStoppers is fantastic - and they're getting noticed and getting quite a reputation for getting the scoop. Their writers are second only to Mark Gottlieb.

But, some of the detectives on FR are second to none.

I've forwarded about three items, in the past, provided by Protect the Bill Rights to National Newspapers - and twice the reaction was like - "Is this Right?" So, I know they were unaware.

At some point, FR, Liestoppers, and others are gonna cause a tipping point and I expect some changes are going to be necessitated in Durham.

.


28 posted on 08/27/2006 2:36:49 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Jezebelle

I think you drove the nail right through the 2 x 4 !


29 posted on 08/27/2006 2:37:35 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Jezebelle; Mike Nifong

I am not sure if he was drunk but I wouldn't doubt he was. I think he just might have been drinking heavily the night before. He got up to go to work and fell asleep at the wheel and ran the light. I think if they gave him a test he might have barley passed it. But I don't think he would have volunteered for one. You take this incident and his role in the beating of the black fry cook and put them together. Your looking at a man who is probably a alcoholic. I have know a few alcoholics that would be late all the time because they oversleep. I have also been around a people that were the nicest people around when sober. But you get them drinking and they would get mean. This wouldn't be the first case of a cop with a drinking problem either.


30 posted on 08/27/2006 2:46:47 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Mike Nifong
We heard that he's a regular at the Bar where the incident he's being investigated took place.

I wouldn't doubt if he is a regular at a number of places that sell or serve alcohol.

31 posted on 08/27/2006 2:48:16 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

But, Pepperhead - one thing -

He's not going towards Durham. From the address on the Accident report and the direction of travel - he's coming home at 6:00 in the morning.

thanks


32 posted on 08/27/2006 2:52:28 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: pepperhead; abb; All; Ken H; maggief

Pepperhead,

Another troubling thing about Gottlieb (and the supposed Police investigation of him) - is that at Blincos he was involved in that alleged attack, regardless of to what degree.
One of the Officers, in another group apparently, told the cook the guys were drunk. I think someone inside essentially said the same thing. But, what does Gottlieb do - HEAD of INVESTIGATIONS for DPD? He leaves the scene!

How can that be in line with upholding the law or fulfilling his obligations to the community?

The fact that he fled the scene, leads me to believe he probably was Drunk at Blincos.

The fact that he didn't report what he observed and that he fled the scene - those two things alone - should result in formal discipline by the Department.


33 posted on 08/27/2006 3:02:05 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong
Ok....... But he could have just as well stayed over at a friends house the night before.

The date on this report is March 30 right? Looking back that was Tuesday night - Wednesday morning. Could he have been out drinking for March madness?
34 posted on 08/27/2006 3:14:18 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Mike Nifong

This was posted over on the WTVD board this morning. Interesting thoughts on the makeup of the Potbangers...

Re: Re: LMAO...starring Precious' alleged cousin Jakki O'Night - Queen 2005 Author: roper53668 reply

Yes, they're for real. And for the most part, they are decent, kind people who simply live an alternative lifestyle.

But not all of them. It is well known that in the beginning of this Duke incident, a large percentage of the most aggressive "pot-bangers" were extremists out of the gay-lesbian-transgender community. Many of these people hate heterosexual men, regardless of race, and will not pass up an opportunity to join in on the attack, when the opportunity presents itself.

So it may be a coincidence that "Cousin Jakki" decided to insert herself into this process (it now appears that the AV has claimed that neither she nor her family ever asked Jakki to assume the role of family spokesperson). But then again, it may not.

And for the good people in the TG community... I don't mean to offend... but all communities have their "bad apples"... and the extremists haters... they're for real.
Posted: 8/27/06 5:23 AM


35 posted on 08/27/2006 3:14:27 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Mike Nifong
The fact that he fled the scene, leads me to believe he probably was Drunk at Blincos.

I wouldn't doubt he was drunk that night. But 6am on a weekday? He would have to be drinking at someones house or at home since bars shut down late at night.

36 posted on 08/27/2006 3:21:15 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: abb
I remember the first time I seen Jakki on tv. Most of us here were calling her a him or a it. I guess it is official now since the other thread had the poster of her it on it. ;)
37 posted on 08/27/2006 3:25:12 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead; Ken H; abb; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; TommyDale; JLS; CondorFlight; ...

. . . . . . . . . . . NOT looking good for Gottlieb,

. . Neff, from the News and Observer weighs in:

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/479650.html

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38 posted on 08/27/2006 3:50:44 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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From NEFF:

"The Duke Hospital medical records make no mention of blunt force trauma. The sexual assault examination form has a section where the examiner is told to "Describe all signs of physical trauma." Levicy wrote that the woman had two nonbleeding scratches on her right knee and a nonbleeding scratch on her right heel.

Under "Physical Examination," the nurse noted diffuse swelling of the vagina. The nurse left all other parts of the pelvic examination section blank, including the line for a rectal exam."

AND

"According to Gottlieb's typed account of the interview, the woman was in great pain and became emotional: "Tears ran down her face freely and her nose began to run." Gottlieb noted that "the victim stated she had bruising that was beginning to show up from the assault," 60 hours after the party. He ordered Investigator R.A. Reid to take photographs, and noted that "Reid stated she had the onset of new bruises present."

HOWEVER, "Reid's typed report makes no mention of bruises, only a cut heel, a cut toe and bandages on both knees. Reid's photographs of the accuser's face and neck show no bruises."

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/479650.html


39 posted on 08/27/2006 3:57:50 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

Looks like we'll have to add more words to the lexicon: "Gottliebed." Or maybe: "Gottliebery." How about: "Gottliebulate." Lots of possibilities here...


40 posted on 08/27/2006 3:59:09 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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