Posted on 08/24/2006 8:01:43 PM PDT by Perdogg
Not sure if it is yet. But if you get enough people to say it I guess it will be. ;)
Lol, behold the beauty of the English language...
Just who are these "Nifong Supporters" that are quoted in this article? I just love the way the MSM throws in statements like that. It is like the statement that "outside experts say it is possible for a rapist to leave no DNA"(What?!). This is the drive-by media at its best (worst): make outrageous, inflammatory statements that are unsupported by fact and unsourced. It's a good thing I haven't had my breakfast yet...
I know what you are saying. The most important things is for Judge Smith to know the law and follow it in this case.
Recall sounds more logical, don't know the case, but a cop trying to stop kids that were high and trying to get out of paying their bill (some places take that out of the waiters pay, thats fair huh? work to serve them and then have to pay for their meal, anyway...) and you don't want that kind of cop in your area? Send him here, that is exactly the kind of cop I want in my area.
Of course Judge Stephens refused to order that they be maintained.
Now that's a very important point that I had forgotten. Proof positive that Stephens and Titus are filthy dirty. The evidence is still out on Smith...
Where would we find the transcript that shows the motion and ruling?
Look for a transcript of the first hearing in the case, ie the "Dead Man Walking" hearing. A defense attorney asks for an order to have all the notes perserved along with discovery of entire files. Stephens found not reason to issue such an order.
It was maybe not a big enough point to have made news coveraged. That underlines what you miss when cameras are banned.
I don't have the transcript but here is an article from WRAL re: preservation of notes.
http://www.wral.com/dukelacrosseheadlines/9236151/detail.html
A judge did grant Osborn's request to preserve the notes and records written by police officers involved in the case.
Here is Osborne's motion concerning notes.
http://kirkosborn.com/Motions/MotionforPreservationofNotes.pdf
No. He leapd in front of a car. Then killed a passenger in that car. He was off duty.
Thanks! So the motion WAS granted. We will need to see Gottlieb's 3 pages of notes...
Here's the NandO's story. Nothing in it about that motion - I'm going to watch the video to double check...
The video time counter counts backwards. Start listening about 6:45 left in the video.
After ordering the police note be preserved, Stephens refuses to order that police turn their notes over to the DA's office so they would then be available in discovery. Thus, this refusal led directly to no one having the 3 pages of notes that Gottlieb either had or made up not being known at the earliest possible point in time and allowed Gottlieb to message them.
oops, message should have been massage.
Well, there it is. WRAL got half the story correct. Only by US having a video record were we able to find out what really happened.
I'm telling you people, I don't like this video blackout of the hearings ONE DAMN BIT. The reporters CANNOT be depended on to get it right. Or they lie. Or they just make it up. And do you want to depend on the court reporter to accurately transcribe the thing? Who signs his/her paycheck?
Funny how your story is different from Recalls. Was he working security? As a security officer is he just suppose to wave at people leaving without paying their bill? If a officer steps in front of your car are you suppose to a) go faster, b) slow down or c) stop?
A few of the officers in Durham aside, I would put my trust in them over someone trying to skip out on a bill.
I know the parking lot very well. The cop had to go out of his way to get himself "in the way", and the driver has to maneuver a bit to "get out".
I fail to see the justification for a security guard shooting a passenger.
We had another shooting a few years back where a Prince George's County cop followed the wrong SUV from University of Maryland over here into Virginia. One thing led to another and the cop shot and killed the student driving the SUV.
The "forces of law and order" connived to hold the PG cop blameless although he was from out of state and had no business over here in Fairfax County shooting anybody.
The Commonwealth's Attorney who let that schmuck off also decided that Amir Ali Kanzi, the fellow who shot up a bunch of people at the CIA in 1992 was just a criminal. Actually, he was in the vanguard of what turned out to be the AlQaida operation that crashed a plane into the Pentagon.
They could do better, particularly in supervising cops as they cross statelines tailing people or in prosecuting Islamofascist terrorists. When it comes to shooting unarmed people in parking lots, ...... well, that's a whole 'nuther matter. We haven't eaten at I-Hop since that time, and you shouldn't either. The numbnuts they hire to guard their buildings will shoot you where you sit.
Most likely for the criminal trial.
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