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Files From Duke Rape Case Give Details but No Answers
NY Times ^ | Published: August 25, 2006 | By DUFF WILSON and JONATHAN D. GLATER

Posted on 08/24/2006 8:01:43 PM PDT by Perdogg

DURHAM, N.C. — On March 21, a week after an African-American woman charged that she had been raped by three white Duke University lacrosse players, the police sergeant supervising the investigation met with the sexual-assault nurse who had examined the woman in the emergency room. The sergeant, Mark D. Gottlieb, reviewed the medical report, which did not say much: some swelling, no visible bruises.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; nifong; nifongery
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To: Jezebelle

I the case of Durham, circus might be a good word, considering all the monkeys and clowns involved! LOL!


161 posted on 08/25/2006 1:11:42 PM PDT by TommyDale (It's time to dismiss the Duke fake rape case, Mr. Nifong!)
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To: SarahUSC

Well, if anyone does, it will probably be outside media, not local. And if it's outside media, I doubt they will prevail. Judges are stubborn by nature.


162 posted on 08/25/2006 1:12:46 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

It ain't the trial I'm worried about, it's the 9/22 hearing. That crew won't be there for that hearing.


163 posted on 08/25/2006 1:19:45 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: JLS

I think some are judging him prematurely, and my guess is that he's well aware of why this case has been deemed "exceptional". Again, there is nothing unusual about a judge banning cameras, especially older judges. Frankly, if I was a judge, I wouldn't want them in my courtroom, either. I just think he should have given more weight to the suspicions surrounding the application of the process in this case. But if he's a stubborn old coot like a lot of judges, that doesn't matter much to him and he believes he's going to remedy that in his own way and run his courtroom the way he wants to and is used to doing, or figures it's up to the electorate to straighten matters out by electing better people, and to that extent he would be right.


164 posted on 08/25/2006 1:20:46 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

abb is superb. :>


165 posted on 08/25/2006 1:21:45 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

Why won't there be reporters there?


166 posted on 08/25/2006 1:24:16 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

My thinking is, and I could be wrong, is that none of the national reporters will be there. Only the locals, and I just don't trust them...


167 posted on 08/25/2006 1:28:57 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Well, we'll just have to wait and see. I think outside reporters will be there. It's hard for me to imagine there won't be. Lawyers (which most of these court-watcher journalists are) know the importance of pre-trial motions.

I certainly share your lack of trust in the local yokel media, though.


168 posted on 08/25/2006 1:32:57 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

I think the problems with the view of the courts in this case almost all fall at the feet of Stephens.

1. He was flat lied to to get warrants. When motions were made pointing that out, he did not seem to care.

2. He had Nifong smirking and acting out in his courtroom and did nothing about it.

3. He allowed a defendant to be implicitly threatened in his courtroom admittedly before he arrived without doing a thing about it.

4. He knew nothing about the case but far far too much about that cell phone.

I am not sure if he is honest, cares about his public image or not, but what he accomplished was making himself look like a judge who is at best intimidated by the DA and at worst corrupt. Titus did nothing to change this with is unwillingness to do anything and his quasi-gag order, but it was not as personal as it should have been with Stephens who personally signed those orders based on lies and the negotiations to declare this case exceptional might have been going on the whole time he was handling the case.


169 posted on 08/25/2006 1:36:36 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

Precisely. I ain't gonna trust none of them until they show me something resembling justice...


170 posted on 08/25/2006 1:41:48 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Jezebelle
that doesn't matter much to him and he believes he's going to remedy that in his own way and run his courtroom

The problem is that if the case is dropped or a jury acquits, much of the black community will think the fix was in and if there is a conviction a huge number of people will think a railroading based on race and politics. This can not be remedied with hearings without cameras. This may or really likely will be exacerbated by barring cameras.
171 posted on 08/25/2006 2:00:51 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

I wonder if Crystal has figured out which room she danced in at 610 yet?

Maybe Gottlieb finally straightened her out.


172 posted on 08/25/2006 2:22:24 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: All

WTVD's story here:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4496849


173 posted on 08/25/2006 2:23:27 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Jezebelle

I think there will be national reporters there too. It's a big case and it touches on all those issues the MSM loves so much - race, class, "privledge", and so on. I don't think they'll be able to resist. As long as we get one really good reporter like Megyn Kendall in there I think it's fine. I would prefer the cameras though because of all the public attention this case has received.


174 posted on 08/25/2006 2:27:08 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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To: abb

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/gaynor/060825


175 posted on 08/25/2006 2:27:37 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
Nifong, who attended with an aide, also refused to comment on the story.

"I've read it," he acknowledged with a smile.


I bet you have. You probably helped write it, like Gottlieb's notes. Pr!ck!
176 posted on 08/25/2006 2:27:52 PM PDT by maggief
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To: SarahUSC

I think the defense will pay to have a responsible reporter on hand. No way will they leave it to the N&O or HS. They'd be crazy to not insure the transcript is accurate.


177 posted on 08/25/2006 3:04:39 PM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: maggief

I had just copied that part about Nifong's comment to paste here. Is he the stupidest person in the world or what?

What that NYT article will accomplish is two things:

1. Bring this case back up on all the cable networks where Nifong will be trashed over and over and over again.

2. Devalue the NYT brand even futher.

BTW, I think the NYT article was more a shot across the bow of Cash Michael as much as anything. It certainly undermines what he was saying and remember he read all the 1800 plus pages too and came to completely different conclusions. It was telling him to get back on the plantation.

With that in mind it the article will not change the mind of anyone who has followed this case. Nor will it change the mind of any of the racists/feminazis. So the way to see any impact of the NYT article is too see if Cash Michael or the likes of Guilfoyl start heading back to Nifong's side.


178 posted on 08/25/2006 3:23:57 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

Well, Smith's ruling has struck a nerve. The AP has run that lede nationally. Let's see how the TH's deal with it...


179 posted on 08/25/2006 4:09:57 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

more chatter...
http://www.slate.com/id/2148442/


180 posted on 08/25/2006 4:12:30 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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