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Is there a future for OpenVZ?
Tech World ^ | August 23, 06 | Manek Dubash, Techworld

Posted on 08/24/2006 7:04:45 AM PDT by N3WBI3

Is the time rapidly approaching when OpenVZ becomes accepted as the second player behind VMware -- or at least, the one that isn't Microsoft? Or is it destined to fall into the gap between two increasingly polarised camps?

In the virtualisation technology market right now, there are two main bidders for second fiddle behind clear market leader VMware -- and they're both open source projects: XenSource, which develops Xen, and SWsoft with OpenVZ.

From the point of view of many, Xen has been the favoured platform until quite recently. It carried an open source halo, was heavily linked with Linux -- Novell has already shipped it with SuSE and Red Hat's community version of its distro -- Fedora Core 5 -- includes it too. It's widely expected to be part of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 -- the next release, unless Red Hat and Xen fall out completely.

What's more, Xen promises much. It works with a para-virtualised Linux kernel -- one that's been altered to pass certain OS calls through to the hypervisor layer. This technique offers high performance virtualisation that's almost indistinguishable from running an OS on the bare metal.

But then XenSource recently teamed up with Microsoft, with the aim of adding Windows support to the previously Linux-only Xen. This makes perfect sense from XenSource's point of view: Microsoft is the only competitor to VMware that looks at all likely to be able to meet VMware on its own terms. Even though Microsoft's enterprise-level hypervisor, which will compete with ESX Server, is not likely to appear before 2010.

And you can't ignore Microsoft. Although it started in the virtualisation business with its usual approach of selling commercial software, there are clear signs that it's prepared to change its ways in the virtualisation market, where the open approach -- in various guises -- prevails.

Anathema to open source devotees it might be, but Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer said recently that Microsoft is no longer opposed in principle to open source. After all, there's too much money at stake.

Whether or not Microsoft does so, the Xen tie-up means that Microsoft proprietary code is bound to make its way into the GPL-bound Xen product. Such mixing of licensing approaches could cause difficulties when it comes to distribution -- although Microsoft has powerful lawyers on its side who'll probably be able to bolt together a compromise.

Where does this leave newcomer SWsoft with its open source project OpenVZ?

Project manager Kir Kolyshkin reckons that his product is ahead of Xen for a number of reasons. "We use a single kernel and so we are lighter, while Xen has multiple different kernels," he said.

"With VT enabled hardware, you can run Windows and Linux on same box, also BSD," he said. "We have a single kernel to run virtualisation stuff to create those containers. Our overhead is lower than Xen too -- it's about two or three percent."

Kolyshkin says that its strength also lies in its alliances, such as deals with IBM and -- critically -- with Red Hat, whose executives were quoted last month as saying that they didn't think Xen was robust enough to go mainstream -- even though this was semi-retracted a few days later by an announcement smothered in marketing-speak.

Many have since pondered whether this might represent an opening for OpenVZ to supplant Xen; its technology, though not identical to that of Xen, is similar.

However, OpenVZ could be in danger of falling between two stools, as the market polarises around the two main camps: VMware plus numerous partners versus Microsoft and Xen. And it's Xen that OpenVZ can expect the most problems with, as Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff says: "With so many free, near-free, and built-in product out there, it's going to be increasingly tough for a standalone virtualisation company to make money -- especially if you look out 18 months or so."

While it's going to be hard to make money out of virtualisation products that aren't on the cutting edge, the strength of conviction that many open source advocates bring to their work should not be underestimated. As Kolyshkin says, when asked why SWsoft set up the project: "It has a value of its own -- we want to contribute to Linux and have it become a better OS."

Virtualisation is too young yet both as a technology and as a market to descend into an oligarchy. With so much development and market potential still ahead of virtualisation technology, it seems probable that OpenVZ has a future. Whether it's one as an independent company or as part of a larger portfolio -- EMC-style -- remains to be seen.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: opensource; openvz

1 posted on 08/24/2006 7:04:46 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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2 posted on 08/24/2006 7:05:32 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

Too bad OpenVZ seems to still believe that superior technology will win the day. They really need to study some tech history.


3 posted on 08/24/2006 7:12:28 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: N3WBI3
VMs are so cool.

I'm running a W2k Workstation VM in order to run a MS-only program I'm testing my Linux-based program against. I had created a 4Gb HDD for it (the default), but was running out of room due to various considerations. I merely ran a tool to expand the "physical" disk the VM sees, and ran Partition Magic within Windows to get it to see the whole new disk. Took about 5 minutes--including the install of Partition Magic.

Compare that to expanding a true physical disk, where I would have to go out (or order online) to get a new disk, tear the machine down, install the disk, configure Windows to somehow see both the original and new disks as one partition--I saved me (and my employer) hours and dollars.

It just an awesome technology.

4 posted on 08/24/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
It has been such a cost savings to my company (we use ESX). Unfortunately it leads developers and DBA's to believe space, cpu, and memory is unlimited and free..
5 posted on 08/24/2006 7:39:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: ShadowAce

> VMs are so cool.

Yeah but you need a gigabyte of RAM for each concurrent one, realistically.


6 posted on 08/24/2006 7:54:56 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: old-ager
Yeah but you need a gigabyte of RAM for each concurrent one, realistically.

Nah--I run W2k on a 256M VM, along with another Linux VM using only 512M of RAM. I run both of these and my host OS on a 1GB laptop.

7 posted on 08/24/2006 7:56:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: old-ager
Depends on what the server does, I have some ldap servers which are only taking 256MB of physical memory away from the hosts.

With ESX there is very little overhead to the VM's..
8 posted on 08/24/2006 9:31:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: ShadowAce
Nah--I run W2k on a 256M VM, along with another Linux VM using only 512M of RAM. I run both of these and my host OS on a 1GB laptop.

HAH! I'm so cool... my laptop has 2GB of ram. Running FC5, I can run 2 FC5 VMs and XP... without touching my swap space.

One thing to keep in mind if you are using vmware, you can actually oversubscribe your ram, and vmware will only use what it needs as opposed to the entire memory space requested.  

9 posted on 08/24/2006 9:47:07 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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my laptop has 2GB of ram.

I had a choice when I bought mine--2GB of slower RAM or 1GB of DDR400. I chose the faster ram.

10 posted on 08/24/2006 9:51:55 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Probably a good choice. I really like the extra GB of ram though.


11 posted on 08/24/2006 10:30:39 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: N3WBI3
Unfortunately it leads developers and DBA's to believe space, cpu, and memory is unlimited and free..

You mean...it's not?
12 posted on 08/24/2006 11:26:04 AM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: ShadowAce

So Windows runs on half the RAM, yet you refer to Linux as a "service pack" in your tagline. LOL obviously more of a "downgrade".


13 posted on 08/24/2006 8:04:26 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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So Windows runs on half the RAM,...

Oh--I could run Linux on half of what I'm running Windows on, but since I'm doing so much more with Linux, I felt it prudent to give it more resources.

I don't need to give Windows all that much since I'm only running one small program on it.

14 posted on 08/25/2006 6:03:28 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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