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To: Swordmaker
The "fact" that a Manpads missile cannot reach an aircraft flying at 13,700 is a myth... a little research shows that there were Tier Two Manpads available in 1996 that could easily have hit TWA-800.

Actually, a little research shows that nothing available in 1996 had a max altitude within 1,000 feet.

The French made Mistral Missile is capable of reaching TWA-800s altitude (4-6km range)

You're confused. The maximum range of the mistral is 6km. It's maximum altitude is 3km.

October 11, 1994 Associated Press report datelined 09/28 23:55 EDT V0009 (1994) A State bomb squad destroyed a French-made surface to air rocket launcher armed with a live missile and explosives ....along a rural roadside in Westminster, Maryland.

You are gonna have to do a little better then a cut-n-paste from one of four conspiracy websites. And you might want to check your citation. It references a French anti-tank missile. Which might explain the tripod.

In addition, at least 11 other airline crews reported missiles or missile like objects in near misses of their flights near Long Island in the months before and after TWA-800.

Did you get that from the same conspiracy site you pulled your AP citation?

Strangely, the coronor reported many of the bodies of the TWA-800 victims had small metallic balls in them...

Strangely, once again, we're just going to have to take your word for it. Now the coroners are in on the coverup as well? This thing is just growing exponentially.

The Mistral is a Tier 1 Manpad... but Tier 2 Manpads are also available. A Tier 2 Manpad could easily reach TWA-800 and knock it out of the sky:

The Mistral entered production in 1989. It's a Tier 2. Of course, you're having problems telling the difference between range and altitude.....

Every one of the red dots on the plot is a location where a Tier Two Manpads could launch and hit an aircraft taking no evasive action at ~13,700 feet of altitude traveling at 370 knots.

Every one of the red dots on the plot is a location where no MANPAD available in 1996 could hit anything at an altitude of 13,700 feet.
128 posted on 08/23/2006 10:26:25 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Did you get that from the same conspiracy site you pulled your AP citation?

More ad hominem argument... a logical fallacy

I know who the founding members of ARAP are... and I know who my father was... I don't know who you and Mindbender26 are.


Associated Retired Aviation Professionals
Post Office Box 90, Clements, Md 20524; USA
E-Mail: ARAP
Membership

Admiral Thomas Moorer USN/(Deceased)
Admiral Moorer, is the former Chairman of the JointChief's of Staff
and the most Senior Retired Military Officer in the Group

Brig. General Ben Partin, USAF/Ret
General Partin was instrumental in developing continious rod-missile systems.

CMDR. William S. Donaldson USN/(Deceased)
Commander Donaldson is the former Officer-in-Charge of Carrier Battle Groups Air Traffic Control Center,
an air crash investigator and the author of the Interim Report to Congress on TWA Flight 800

Captain Al Mundo TWA/Ret
Captain Mundo is a retired TWA Pilot

Captain Howard Mann TWA/Ret
Captain Mann is a former TWA Pilot, an air crash investigator, participating in four air crash
investigations during his career and the most senior retired commercial pilot in the group.

Major Fred Meyer NYANG/Ret
Major Meyer is a decorated Vietnam Pilot and an eyewitness to the downing of TWA Flight 800.

Rear Admiral Mark Hill, USN/Ret
Admiral Hill, is the former Commanding Officer ofthe USS Independence and an Air Crash Investigator.

Cmdr. Bruce Valley, UNS/Ret
Cmdr. Valley is a retired Naval Aviator and currently President of GlobNet, Inc.

Dr. Gregory A. Harrison, P.E.
Dr. Harrison is a professional Fire Safety Enginneer with a Phd. in Safety Engineering.
He has extensive experience in fire investigations, flammable liquids and explosions.
Dr. Harrison is court qualified to testify on forensics in Md/VA/DC/NJ/PA/LA/TX and FLA.

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These are not wild eyed conspiracy theorists... they are well qualified people who, like me, found something suspicious in the TWA-800 investigation. Their experience provides a degree of confidence in their opinions about aircraft, military ordnance, and air crash investigation. They document their information.

I have independently calculated the physics of the flight... and found it confirmed by work done by others such as Dr. Thomas Stallcup (Physics). I provide links and examples of the math involved. I see you and mindbender26 making assertions ex-cathedra but little or no documentation to back up your claims... and certainly no math.

130 posted on 08/23/2006 11:48:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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