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Karr classmate offers theory on ransom-note mystery
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 19, 2006 | David Montero

Posted on 08/19/2006 9:22:16 AM PDT by beaversmom

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To: Sacajaweau

Do you know what his mother died from?


121 posted on 08/19/2006 2:29:51 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Bigh4u2

John Z. Delorean. Sufferer of the World's Worst mid-life crisis.


122 posted on 08/19/2006 2:33:16 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: txrangerette

Have no idea what his mother died from.


123 posted on 08/19/2006 2:39:30 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Lx

They were cheaper about 10 years ago...


124 posted on 08/19/2006 2:39:41 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Why would the Ramseys write that?

The above story makes a lot more sense.


125 posted on 08/19/2006 2:41:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Why would the Ramseys write that?

The above story makes a lot more sense.


126 posted on 08/19/2006 2:41:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: beaversmom

Before everyone gets into a tizzy about one interpretation over another, ie saved by the cross of shall be the conquerer. It is not a stretch that the man took a common phrase and created his own private meaning for it.


127 posted on 08/19/2006 2:43:36 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Conservative Texan Mom
Yes, the beheading di stick out like a sore thumb. Perhaps he stuck it in deliberately for Walsh. The letter was very deliberate in mentioning certain things in many ways.

Perhaps Walsh came close to catching Karr in another Cold Case. The letter is a taunt in many ways. Perhaps the part that says "Don't try to grow a brain, John" is really directed to Walsh? (Now that sounds a bit far fetched but a twisted mind does funny things.)

Where was Walsh from?

128 posted on 08/19/2006 2:46:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: i_dont_chat

What is a scaft?


129 posted on 08/19/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Sacajaweau

They were living in Florida when the crime happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/17/cnn25.tan.walsh/index.html


130 posted on 08/19/2006 3:00:31 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Could be she had cancer or died of some other natural cause. But we don't seem to know at this point.

What if it was accidental overdose, or self-inflicted or some harm was done to her? Might, and I say might, give us some insight into this case. In addition to other possible insights...Karr himself claims she raised him like a girl. Hmmmmm.

I'm not saying it was from any of those causes...I don't know.

I do know that a lot of times in a story it will be included WHAT the person who died "out of phase", so to speak, died from.

Makes me wonder, that's all, if there's something there of significance that hasn't been told.


131 posted on 08/19/2006 3:08:08 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

It looks like they're taking him to California first.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/19/ramsey.arrest/index.html


132 posted on 08/19/2006 3:08:50 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Nightshift

ping


133 posted on 08/19/2006 3:13:18 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: Raycpa

Who's in a tizzy?

Some are noting the strangeness of Karr making such a point of predicting in A HS yearbook that one day maybe I (S)HALL (B)E (T)HE (C)ONQUEROR, then years later confessing to a heinous crime that had the letters signed like this at the end of a "ransom note" in which he taunted the Ramseys...

Victory

S.B.T.C.

No one I know is saying those letters couldn't stand for any number of things, taken in isolation from these particular facts that include the yearbook signing and the ransom note signing and the confession by Karr.


134 posted on 08/19/2006 3:14:03 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

New York.

At least he was when his son was abducted and murdered.

I'm not sure where he was born but I can google.


135 posted on 08/19/2006 3:15:20 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

I think a key to the SBTC notation might well be--is this a phrase he's used fairly often? Did he make similar comments when signing other yearbooks?


136 posted on 08/19/2006 3:17:17 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Sacajaweau

I googled and found in Wikipedia that he was born in Auburn, New York (whereever Auburn NY is...).


137 posted on 08/19/2006 3:24:39 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: xarmydog
Our DeLorean lasted a year or so after my daughter got it. A coyotee was in the road one night and she swerved to avoid it only to lost traction on the rear wheels (just got new studded tires) and it spun out on a curve and she totalled it. We made out great on the insurance and she wasn't hurt at all.

Now when I had my accident in it, I was driving along at 55 and some gal with a MADD sticker on her car was arguing with her kid and pulled out right in front of me. That almost totalled it but I got the parts myself and made out great on the insurance again. I think I had about 10G left over after getting the parts and having the whole car repainted. I didn't see any markings as to what color it was painted but it was done locally in Bend at Dudes Body Shop who knew just how to paint it and it came out great. I originally traded a 928 Porsche I had just bought for 15G for this DeLorean that had a window sticker of 34G because they weren't able to sell it.

138 posted on 08/19/2006 3:24:48 PM PDT by Searching4Justice
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To: MizSterious

That would be interesting to know if he did it more than once. But if he only did it ONCE, to me that's very odd to put on a HS yearbook signing page (SHALL BE THE CONQUEROR), and then to have those exact letters show up as the signature (S.B.T.C.) on the "ransom note" in a murder case to which he later confesses...


139 posted on 08/19/2006 3:30:35 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Conservative Texan Mom

My bad...he was indeed living in FL not NY when his son disappeared. But I am correct that he was originally from NY. But in the mind of someone who tries to make something out of the fact that a person has a southern heritage, the fact is FL is a southern state.


140 posted on 08/19/2006 3:39:40 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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