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To: Dante Alighieri
ID expressly holds itself to be a non-natural phenomena.

Why would that be when intelligent design can be directly observed in many cases? You still have not answered either how science can define the difference between natural and supernatural, and why intelligent design must be supernatural. Do you consider all human implements to be supernatural since they are intelligently designed? Of course not. So why is some other arrangement of matter performing specific functions considered "supernatural?" Is it just because the designer is not directly manifest and present to testify of involvement in the design process?

. . . you're essentially saying that the Designer is an idiot.

Let's see you design and build a living, self-replicating object, and then we can discuss who the real idiot is. Oh, and be sure to avoid using intelligence or design in the process.

556 posted on 08/21/2006 9:50:37 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Why would that be when intelligent design can be directly observed in many cases? You still have not answered either how science can define the difference between natural and supernatural, and why intelligent design must be supernatural. Do you consider all human implements to be supernatural since they are intelligently designed? Of course not. So why is some other arrangement of matter performing specific functions considered 'supernatural?' Is it just because the designer is not directly manifest and present to testify of involvement in the design process?"

I already addressed this and you keep repeating yourself - CSI has not been seen and has been shown to be both mathematically and biologically unsound.

Let's see you design and build a living, self-replicating object, and then we can discuss who the real idiot is. Oh, and be sure to avoid using intelligence or design in the process.

Amazingly, enough, we already have. Evolutionary algorithms? Of course, you skipped my point on ERVs and noncoding DNA, and pseudogenes. This indicates an unintelligent Designer, not an intelligent one.

557 posted on 08/21/2006 10:02:07 AM PDT by Dante Alighieri
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