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Ex-wife gives alibi for JonBenet suspect
Associated Press ^ | August 17, 2006 | Alisa Tang

Posted on 08/17/2006 7:51:23 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

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To: Eva
I've been thinking about how he could have possibly known enough about the family to have written the ransom note and asked for a ransom equal to the exact amount of the dad's bonus check. I came up with the possibility that he had been stalking the family, and possibly gained entrance to the home and spent some time there before the actual murder.

That may be plausible, but there are other areas of the ransom note that need explanations, like the Ramsey's usage of the phrase "and hence" duplicated exactly in the ransom note.

More importantly, an examination of the author's writing style shows us that whatever comes before the phrase "and hence" comes after the phrase "and hence."

13. delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we

14. monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to

15. arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier

16. delivery pickup of your daughter.

We see the same writing style in the Ramsey's Christmas message.

"Had there been no birth of Christ, there would be no hope of eternal life, and, hence, no hope of ever being with our loved ones again."

So, the Ramsey supporters would have us believe that the Ramseys not only adopted the word "hence" they also adopted the phrase "and hence" and they also adopted the killer's writing style! Possible but not probable.

161 posted on 08/17/2006 8:42:27 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Arec Barrwin

Interesting scenario: Was he hired to abduct her? Did she die earlier and the man only seems to have his ex as an alibi?


162 posted on 08/17/2006 8:42:31 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: PhiKapMom

then why wouldn't John Ramsey have told the police that? he could simply have shown them he had a letter or tax form on his desk, that showed the amount of the bonus - eliminating one of the strange issues surrounding this case regarding how the killer knew how much to ask for in the ransom note.


163 posted on 08/17/2006 8:43:23 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Always Right
I am thinking that it might just be an attempt to get out of Thai prison.

Isn't Thailand where they caned the U.S. kid who spray-painted graffiti on some cars? If Karr was being held in Thailand for sex-related charges, I doubt a Thai prison was in his long term future. More likely a thorough caning and a pine box of some sort. Even more reason for Karr to lie his way out of Thailand. Until the DNA matches, this one doesn't pass the smell test.

164 posted on 08/17/2006 8:43:33 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: PhiKapMom

That's exactly what I was thinking. It would be very much like a sexual stalker to invade these people's home and snoop into every aspect of their lives, before committing the actual crime. Perhaps entering the house numerous times.

We had a stalker once, who did this to us. He took my checking account information and sold it to someone with the same name as me. This guy wanted us to know that he had been in the house, though. On nights when my husband wasn't home, I used to sleep with a huge knife that my husband brought home from Vietnam, stuck between the mattress and box springs of my bed.


165 posted on 08/17/2006 8:43:59 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Andy from Beaverton
..... how could I get out of spending time in one of the worst jails known to man.....

A distinct possibility here. I also wonder about Anglo-Saxon based law, which is common to Gt Britain and the USA. A famous case there to clear the name of an executed man. It was that of James Hanratty. A man who was interviewed many years later. At the time of the murder he had a likeness to the identi-kit. He claimed in Paris,France, HE did the crime.

He sure got paid plenty by the press. Later DNA tests proved the police got their sums right originally. That lying, do nothing, con man- Peter Alphons, could not be charged, under some tenet of law.

It could be that some law applies to a statement made in a foreign country. One could get ten years though, for obstruction of justice, if made in the country where the crime was committed.

Why people get so angered because one has a theory, I don't know. No one here really knows.

I go with your gut feeling.

167 posted on 08/17/2006 8:44:13 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: PhiKapMom

But you are talking facts. That will never do. We must rely on our feelings, you know. After all the parents , gasp, put stage makeup on her-- the perverts. She didn't wear it to ride her bicycle and do all the other normal kid things she did, but the small amount of time she was in pageants was hideous to many Freepers. Amazingly, my grand daughters who did the same thing are thriving. The Ramseys are victims of a killer, and the drive by media, and those who should know better than to believe media lies.


168 posted on 08/17/2006 8:45:41 AM PDT by Bushiefan
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To: Sir Gawain

oops left out link

http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/


169 posted on 08/17/2006 8:45:47 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Arec Barrwin
Rather than looking like the actual perpetrator of the murder, Karr much more closely resembles a nutcase with a deep, but delusional, psychological attachment to the case. Without DNA evidence or some other concrete forensic proof that he was in the Ramsey home, one should regard his "confession" with great suspicion.

If the case against Karr does fall apart under scrutiny, it will be interesting to note the alacrity with which John Ramsey sped before the cameras upon the announcement of Karr's arrest. He and Karr seem to fulfill each other's needs perfectly -- too perfectly, one might surmise.

170 posted on 08/17/2006 8:46:15 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Hat-Trick

He was not being held for Thai-sex charges. Those charges stemmed from California.


171 posted on 08/17/2006 8:46:30 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: pamlet
And these folks have apparently never even thought about this or were they ever questioned for ten years. I remember...yeh...right.

One thing stands out: They would remember who was present when the Ramsey story hit the news and they talked about it amongst themselves. After all, she has southern ties.

172 posted on 08/17/2006 8:46:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Hmmm. Is this guy just a 'murder junkie', memorizing information about crimes, or is his ex-wife just trying to cover up and get him off the charge. If he was in a different state altogether, surely there must be some other evidence of his not having been there. Of course, if the DNA comes back as a match for HIM, then no alibi will hold water.


173 posted on 08/17/2006 8:47:02 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Hat-Trick

Sigh. Again, he wasn't in a prison until the US extradited him on the child porn charges from California. He was a "guest house" (which sounded like a hostel for perverts) in the sex district.


174 posted on 08/17/2006 8:47:14 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Sir Gawain

I thought that the ransom note was copied from the book that Patsy Ramsey was reading, that was found on her night stand.


175 posted on 08/17/2006 8:47:22 AM PDT by Eva
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To: oceanview

Maybe John did tell the inept polica in Boulder and they chose not to believe him.


176 posted on 08/17/2006 8:47:52 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: HawaiianGecko
We'll have other 'experts' say that his hairstyle is indicative of a psychological condition known as Chaetophobia and that according to FBI profiling 'experts', Ted Bundy had this same condition.

That's the great thing about FR. I've never heard of chaetophobia. Googled it and discovered an entire industry devoted to curing people of it.

Apparently the primary symptom (according to your post) is having a buzz cut. Me and my boy--chaetophobics to the max.

177 posted on 08/17/2006 8:48:35 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Arec Barrwin

Funny. He sure didn't mention the child porn charges in California, did he? Either there's a lot he doesn't know about his brother, or there's a lot he's hiding about his brother.


178 posted on 08/17/2006 8:49:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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Obviously the Boulder Police questioned this guy. They got a time line from him. "When did you arrive in Boulder?" When did you leave, Where did you go after that?
They then check out his story. I can not imagine them proceeding with an arrest unless they can absolutely confirm his presence in Boulder on the night of the crime.
I know this is a strange case and they screwed up early on; but,given the fact they were so heavily criticized for their past investigation, it is very unlikely they would have gone public with this case without irrefutable proof of guilt. The DA is not risking her career simply on the basis of a confession from a weirdo and knowledge of the crime scene the general public is unaware of.
179 posted on 08/17/2006 8:49:09 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: sarasota

I never heard the Ramsey attorney asserting that simple fact - "my bonus letter was on my desk, anyone inside the house could have seen it". not saying it didn't happen, I just never heard that assertion made.


180 posted on 08/17/2006 8:49:53 AM PDT by oceanview
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