I'm not getting what Cash is saying. What does he think happened in those few minutes? If someone said something rude does that mean three guys should be convicted of rape? Beacuse the AV is displeased with something? That's pretty harsh. Going to prison for most of the rest of your life seems pretty severe for being rude.
Frankly, I don't think the AV remembers much about the evening. Her many weird stories seem to confirm that. Apparently someone made a comment about a broomstick but it was not one of the players who was charged. So they're supposed to go to jail because their teammate said something rude? Apparently there was also an argument about money. But at least one of the charged players was gone by that time. Are they supposed to go to jail because some of their teammates argued with the dancers about money? That is really pushing it.
SarahUSC,
If you read between the lines some are saying that the boys are racist and they disrepected these two black mothers and
something bad was planned for that night.
I've seen and heard this on many boards and the black activist in Durham - Victoria Petersen - has come right out and said it. The boys are racist and they had bad intentions and something happened in that house. Wasn't it Petersen that said the racism and sexual fantasies about black women were involved and it may not have gotten to the point of rape, but a racist crime occurred that night.
30 minutes ago, I got hit with this argument on another forum. Are we supposed to just let them go, after they hit her, took her money and degraded two black women? - just because she was confused about the rape - due to her traumatic experience is how the theory goes.
This has made it into the media in other ways - read Barry Saunders in the N&O. When asked about the inconsistentcies
in the woman's story and the illegal actions commited during the investigation - he's on record as saying, what are we supposed to feel sorry for these kids hiding behind Daddy's lawyers? Even today, when Saunders mentions the players - he demeans them with every sentence. He calls them "Blue Bloods, 3 poor wealthy students, Blue Devil 3, and rich kids" - and that was just in his latest article on the subject.
Dennis Rogers, also of the N&O wrote recently, they believe "there is huge conspiracy to railroad those upstanding Duke lads." I think the point is Rogers believes they aren't UPSTANDING Duke LADS.
The Editor of the N&O, Melanie Sill, has said regardless of the problems with the rape charges - underage drinking was rampant by the lacrosse team.
It seems if you combine most of the black community with most of the liberals - you'll find these people just don't think these men are worthy of defending - not worthy of Justice, I suppose. Every group is shrinking from the rape charges - but they maintain these kids are no good and it's no tragedy if they go to prison for a couple decades.
This attitude also explains why the National Media won't touch this case at this point. How many would be rushing to do stories if this were 3 black basketball players getting railroaded in a white town?
Whatever happened to the Fresno Football team which 3-10 players allegedly gang-raped an 11 year old girl? I haven't heard one thing. Makes you wonder.
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Both groups have their beliefs based on how they see the case. Problem is, while the discovery evidence leans towards no rape occurring, it does not clear up those minutes she was in there by herself.
Did she argue with somebody? Was she pushed or grabbed? Did someone threaten her because they were all still very angry about paying $800 and not getting their two hours? Did the racial taunts and slurs either continue from the dance, or start immediately after, and then continue when she went back in BY HERSELF to get items she left, only to leave WITHOUT those items.
I'm not getting what Cash is saying. What does he think happened in those few minutes?
Sarah... The grossly misleading statments by Michaels are the kind that lead the uniformed masses to conclude that "something must happened"..
There is none, zero, zip, nada, no evidence that the AV ever was "back in the house by herself"... There is some evidence that she was alone for a few minutes when Kim left to dress in the car. But when she went back to get her shoe, the evidence is that she was not allowed back in.. (the back door was locked).. For Cash it imply that she went back into the house alone after she was attacked is beyond believable, so he must now "make up" that she was alone in the house and attacked after she went back in. But he has no evidence or statements to support his lie.
She went back to get her "shoe", not her stuff... She lost her stuff when she fell down the stairs and scattered it across the back yard. Even Kim stated she locked the AV in the car and went back in with one of the guys to look for the AV's stuff and couldn't find it.
Although some are giving Cash credit for putting a little pressure on Nifong, he is still positing B.S. theories to keep the black masses riled up and in his corner, JIC.... IMO...