Posted on 08/10/2006 7:00:05 AM PDT by Inspector Gill
Murder on an unimaginable scale "Thwarted"!! Is this the False Flag weve been looking for??
If the reports are completely true then the British police and security services have scored a major victory against Al-Quaida. Long delays were now a reality, due to the increased security at all airports, changing of the newly introduced UK security threat levels was also reported. In amongst the stories of stoic, heroic travellers who were surviving these adverse conditions in the face of adversity were details of how one American businessman from Boston, took the pandemonium in his stride, he was quoted as saying "My daughter now gets an extra days shopping in London!". The BBC news website has a quote from a member of the public, a Tony Chorley, saying "This disruption is one of the short term limits on freedom that are needed", no details of how short term these short term limits will be are given.
The UK home secretary, John Reid, is on the record as saying that "all the main players involved in this plot have been arrested", he further states that if the attacks had gone forward there was have been an loss of life on an "unprecedented scale". Police have released preliminary details (location and number) only, of 21 arrests they have carried out. So one would conclude that the 21 masterminds, or in the words of the UK home secretary "main players", have now been arrested. The numbers are very important as the associated press have reported a senior U.S. counterterrorism official; who said on a condition of anonymity due to the "sensitivity of the situation" that as many as 50 people were involved in the plot, which had the "footprint to an al-Quaida back to it." So, if the words of the UK home secretary are to be believed, that the "main players" have been arrested, then there are still at least further 29 non main players who the authorities are looking for. The difference between 21 and 50 is substantial, and of course in a conspiracy of this magnitude it is vital that all the suspects are arrested. John Reid makes bold statements such as main players, but Im sure amongst the possible 29 (or even more) individuals who have not been arrested there are some substantial players, or even important players. We therefore await news of further arrests, as well as full details of those who have already been arrested.
However the contradictions in the reports given by officials are already evident and will only serve to cause more confusion. The US Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff, states that "We believe that these arrests (in London) have significantly disrupted the threat, but we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted.. This is serious as the UK officials do believe the plot/conspiracy has been thwarted and all the main players have been arrested. Clarification is needed from the officials who make such statements, rather than them refusing to do so citing security worries, as these claims become simple hearsay. Clarifications are more important than raising or lowering lollipop coloured threat levels, only to then use the defence that the security sensitivity of the situation prevents release of important details, as it is the public who are at risk.
We are also told in an AP news article, on a condition of anonymity; that the plot specifically involved the following airlines United Airlines, American Airlines and Continental Airlines Inc. this was stated by TWO counterterrorism officials.
This is a major victory in the "war on terror" and a coup for MI5 and the CIA, as all the conspirators have been caught alive prior to any crime being committed; we await with baited breath all the precise details of the plot (the modus operandi). Especially the following:
According to the BBC security correspondent Gordon Carrera, who didnt give any specific details but who obviously has some inside knowledge of the events This was a very serious and imminent threat, the arrested plotters he said werent just talking about it, but they had the capability and the material to carry this out. Well Gordon, we await the evidence and convictions that will now no doubt result from your inside knowledge and statements of absolute fact.
It is apparent to all observers that the arrests of 21 people involved in a plot of this magnitude are a major blow to the terrorists, and huge victory for the security services. Arrests of living suspects who can now be interrogated and investigated will now doubt shed new light and fully expose terror networks and contacts. We now must wonder if this conspiracy will find its way back to Iran or Syria.
We await further pertinent details.
No, you're not asking for evidence...you're making a condemnation for action taken, jumping to conclusions in a overtly negative manner.
What do you want an "after the fact" arrest...so you have your proof?
I am sure the evidence will come out when the conspirators are arraigned...but your jump to conclusion exposes your agenda.
Troll.
I will endeavor to bear my disappointment with manly fortitude.
Why not try making your point more clear? You evidently were either using a lot of sarcasm, or confusing people into thinking you were. Or you were posting using a context you didn't explain.
I'd guess most folks here still don't understand the point you were trying to make.
Your knowledge of HTML busts you.
Almighty And Most Merciful MOD, will we be allowed to play with this one, or shall we await Thy righteous decision?
Do you need to stick your finger into a tube of toothpaste filled with explosives?
Since this is a free country, we are also permitted to post our reactions to your ego-centric, simple-minded thoughts.
She doesn't look too bad in that photo. I'm sure it's from 1995 or 96, circa when she was on "Saturday Night Live".
Ah good! Stick around!
She's got that librarians gone wild look... too bad she's a nutball.
So this is what you want to know, NOW?
The names and details including nationality, education, employment, family history of all the terrorists.
Precise details of how this conspiracy was hatched & who the main organisers were and what there precise motivation was, if indeed it was the footprint of Al-Quaida.
Precise details of all of the plans and key players Evidence of how the explosives were obtained and what there precise mechanism of operation and nature was.
We await the detailed analyses of these so called liquid explosives the terrorists were intent on using.
Specifically the plots involved United Airlines, American Airlines and Continental Airlines Inc, therefore the evidence that this was indeed the case.
Geeze champ, the story only broke today, do ya think you could wait maybe at least a few days before you ask for such detailed information? And to even ask these questions, as if such details won't eventually be released, is to beg the question, "Why think they wouldn't be released?"
But why?????
How about some clarification? What is this "False Flag" you mentioned? Just how much disclosure do you want during an ongoing investigation? Is there some constructive intent to your essay?
His account hasn't been zotted yet.
I don't understand why people do this, spend all that time composing something as detailed as his OP, but then when a little bit of heat is incurred, they cut and run.
Have they found the other 9 Egyptian's students yet?
Its like boot camp ya gotta cut the mustard
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