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China Wins NAFTA Super-Highway Battle
Human Events ^ | August 9 2006 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 08/09/2006 6:31:40 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Mase

That bill was not 'foreign aid'. Did Congress vote on the SPP? No, that was created by executive order, and was a recommendation by Robert Pastor.

The only reason Cornyn pulled that bill is because he got caught. No wonder conservatives are losing faith in the Republican party.

BTW, Pastor architected the Pananam Canal giveway, he has quite a bit more authority in our government than you are allowing.


81 posted on 08/09/2006 4:33:57 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: texastoo; Reagan Man; hedgetrimmer; Smartass; calcowgirl; nicmarlo
"Aristotle's Politics give reason to ask whether the U.S. constitutional republic we have enjoyed for 230 years will long endure a middle class squeezed by an original NAFTA market that evolves into a European-style North American Union dominated by the Chinese."

I think we know the answer.

Citizens of Mexico and China (and probably Canada to a lesser extent) have nothing to lose and can only benefit from all of these NAU initiatives. It is only American citizens that will be left in the lurch.

We need to make certain that every crapweasel politician in Washington who had anything to do with the NAU initiatives (including NAFTA, CAFTA and all the rest of it) "shares our pain". Big time...

82 posted on 08/09/2006 4:45:38 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
We need to make certain that every crapweasel politician in Washington who had anything to do with the NAU initiatives (including NAFTA, CAFTA and all the rest of it) "shares our pain".

Absolutely. In fact, let them have all the pain, and give us a break already!
83 posted on 08/09/2006 4:49:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
That bill was not 'foreign aid'

Providing money for another country to build roads and schools sure sounds like foreign aid to me.

Did Congress vote on the SPP?

Why would they need to vote on this agreement?

No wonder conservatives the unappeasables on FR are losing faith in the Republican party.

Fixed it.

he has quite a bit more authority in our government than you are allowing.

Let me know when Congress schedules a vote to amend the Constitution to create the NAU and its currency, the Amero. Until then, this is all much ado about nothing.

84 posted on 08/09/2006 7:31:53 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase

They didn't amend the Constitution to give authority to regulate our trade to the WTO, and yet, the WTO exists and has the authority to regulate our trade. You "free traders" work ceasely around the constitutional offices of our government. You just create your own, like the SPP, if you can't get what you want out of Congress. Or add signing statements as as defacto line item veto of laws.


85 posted on 08/09/2006 8:18:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
the WTO exists and has the authority to regulate our trade.

The WTO can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to. We can remove ourselves from the WTO anytime we choose. They have no power of enforcement. The WTO's dispute process actually makes it less likely that sanctions, and the resulting trade war, will happen. WTO membership opens markets to our exports and ensures less government interference. You guys have never been able to show us why more trade is bad or how WTO membership has hurt us economically or politically.

You just create your own, like the SPP, if you can't get what you want out of Congress

You'd think with all this unconstitutional behavior going on someone would have challenged one of these trade agreements in court. Can you cite any settled litigation showing these agreements to be unconstitutional? Demagogues like Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo are associated with PAC's who have lots of money. If they're so outraged by these acts, why don't they use their resources to challenge them in court?

86 posted on 08/09/2006 8:46:30 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase
We can remove ourselves from the WTO anytime we choose.

Ha ha. We can stop trading with China anytime too.
87 posted on 08/09/2006 10:19:38 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
We can stop trading with China anytime too.

This is true but it wouldn't be very wise. Cutting trade ties with China would hurt them much more than it would us. It still wouldn't make any sense though.

88 posted on 08/10/2006 7:33:50 AM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase
This is true but it wouldn't be very wise

You "free traders" have rigged things this way on purpose. So much for "we can get out anytime we want to".
89 posted on 08/10/2006 7:44:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
You "free traders" have rigged things this way on purpose

What was the vote in Congress when the Uruguay round of GATT passed paving the way for the WTO?

House: 288-146
Senate: 76-24

What is it about democracy you don't approve of?

90 posted on 08/10/2006 5:01:43 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Cheap Mexican remarkably undercut by the Chinese in manufacturing and assembly can still be used in transport, to land the Chinese goods on Mexican docks and then carry the Chinese containers by truck and train into the heart of North American.

Here is the picture (166K)

91 posted on 08/11/2006 6:36:53 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole

Why do you keep pinging your old boyfriend Willie?


92 posted on 08/11/2006 7:18:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Not to mention a danger to national security.


93 posted on 08/11/2006 7:28:58 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: Reagan Man

China will have to deal with the Mexican mafia and the corrupt Mexican government. American businesses who attempted to start there were driven out by thuggery, kidnappings, etc.


94 posted on 08/11/2006 9:06:46 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: EagleUSA; A. Pole; Willie Green; Paleo Conservative

There's one thing I don't understand. Why is it that patriotism and sacraficing for the common good only applies to the little people and never wealthy individuals or business interests?


95 posted on 08/11/2006 9:14:35 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: EagleUSA
The part that *really* pisses me off is that the US is expected to put up with this crap when there is no way and of our 'free trade' partners would do the same..

Yea I can just see China allowing Indian Ports to have a superhighway into Xi'an, through to Russia...

96 posted on 08/11/2006 10:11:51 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

The part that *really* pisses me off is that the US is expected to put up with this crap when there is no way and of our 'free trade' partners would do the same..
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This is a derivative of the utopian mindset that is setting up and driving this insane, anti-American effort. Stupidity abounds, ripping America's soverignty apart, and permitting legalized invaders free access to our country, our people and there is no way we will have enough prisons and jails to hold all the criminals. Commie China is already working hard to get access to Mexican west coast ports. This is total insanity and we, the American citizen, are going to pay dearly for it.

You might as well fire the DEA, and the INS. They won't be needed any more.


97 posted on 08/11/2006 10:17:06 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: Reagan Man

On the face of it, Mexican workers are almost as cheap as ones in the PRC. However, they tend to want to live in normal houses with their families and while they do work hard, are not as likely to take extreme amounts of overtime. The ones in China are simply complete mad dogs. They tend to be migrants who live in company provided bee hive dorms, and work as much as their employers will let them. The Chinese workers also tend to be younger, and do the job only until they get married. Hard for Mexico to compete with that level of labor arbitrage.


98 posted on 08/11/2006 11:54:39 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Czar
Citizens of Mexico and China (and probably Canada to a lesser extent) have nothing to lose and can only benefit from all of these NAU initiatives. It is only American citizens that will be left in the lurch.

Well, because they will be "riding the horse," that means us, not the Canadians as much but certainly the Mexicans.

We need to make certain that every crapweasel politician in Washington who had anything to do with the NAU initiatives (including NAFTA, CAFTA and all the rest of it) "shares our pain". Big time...

I know, big time, they need to learn that if they make bad decisons for America, we will vote them out. I know Rick Santorum here in Penna voted FOR CAFTA and in all honesty, I can't really vote for him because of that. I've thought about voting for Bob Casey, the Democrat, but I don't like all of what he stands for either. My only choice is third party, see who is running or I can always write my name in or perhaps the name of my 19 year old calico cat, dunno the good it will do but at least my conscience will be clear.
99 posted on 08/11/2006 4:43:07 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; A. Pole
Why do you keep pinging your old boyfriend Willie?

I can't really spak for A. Pole but when I do multiple pings, I ping Willie out of respect and in case if he is lurking and reading the mail. I can assume A. pole is doing much the same.
100 posted on 08/11/2006 4:47:47 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008! - New World Order delenda est!!!!!!)
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