Which gentile here has never had an anti-semitic thought, or said an anti-semitic thing in private? Which Jewish poster here has never made an anti-Christian comment? Which white poster here has never said anything that disparages African-Americans?
If any of the above applies to you, then you may join the Gibson-bashing with a clear conscience. We all admire your moral purity on racial and ethnic issues, which makes you a better person than Rev. Billy Graham.
But for the rest....Mel has apologized twice. IT IS TIME TO LEAVE HIM THE HELL ALONE!
This is the way the MSM can show they are on the right side of this issue while still smashing Israel for their invasion.
It's ready made for them.
So you think posting this thread will somehow accomplish that?
For the most part I agree with you...but.....
I am sure Mel would be getting a lot more sympathy from Freepers if he hadn't trashed Bush a couple of weeks ago.
I thought he was one of us. But he seems to be a double agent.
What if Mel Gibson were a porn star?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51362
I'm sure actor Mel Gibson is relieved, and I'm glad.
Abraham H. Foxman, National Director of The Anti-Defamation League, has accepted Gibson's apology for railing about Jews during his recent drunk driving arrest. Foxman magnanimously said:
''This is the apology we had sought and requested. We are glad that Mel Gibson has finally owned up to the fact that he made anti-Semitic remarks, and his apology sounds sincere. We welcome his efforts to repair the damage he has caused, to reach out to the Jewish community, and to seek help.''
Then, speaking like someone who really knows about weakness, Foxman generously adds that once Gibson gets the alcohol under control, ''we will be ready and willing to help him with his second rehabilitation to combat this disease of prejudice.''
Now, that is touching, really touching!
But who will rehabilitate the ADL for its ''disease?'' The disease of aiding and abetting in the spread of hatred of women and children; a disease that creeps across our nation day-by-day?
Who, if not pornographers, has been spreading the disease of sexual pathology to our most vulnerable and innocent children for decades?
And, who legitimizes, encourages, and patronizes pornographic hate mongers, giving them credibility and honor?
Mel Gibson? Or Foxman and his Anti-Defamation League?
Despite his money and success, Mel Gibson nearly killed himself and others in a drunken-driving spree.
Tragic I'd say.
"VANITY".
I am a recovering alcoholic myself so I can fully understand the low points man man reach.
I like Mel Gibson a lot and believe he will survive this. But some in Hollywodd have already seemed to transmit the message that slurs against Jews make a sin that cannot be forgiven.
A few ideas on how we might find humor in all this and the difficulties of others is below....
Certain alarming and deplorable news stories concerning the way Americans sometimes seek to attain “the edge” over their competitors or just their own weaker selves, remind us that the pharmaceutical, alcohol, and drug “industry” (not us) in America may be out of control.
First, as last weekend kicked off, we were faced with a news story featuring Mel Gibson. Mel, the only Hollywood big shot to recently produce a major motion picture about Jesus, was picked up and charged with Driving Under the Influence (of alcohol) (DUI) in Malibu. If that wasn’t bad enough, Mel, according to the arresting officer and his recorded audio tape of every word, may have gotten a tad vocal during the arrest and booking.
A family newspaper cannot print the exact words Mel used to berate the arresting officer, but let’s just say it was a four letter word that started with an “F” and ended with a “k.”
Mel only used this word about 150 times during his short though wonderful association with the arresting officer.
Mel also imprudently opined that he owned Malibu and would use all his money to get even with the arresting officer and his force.
To top off a terrible acting outing, Mel threw around a bunch of racial insults that will keep him from working in Hollywood forever unless he really can do some magic!
To make bad into worse, Mel also went into an anti-Semitic tirade. Mel apparently blames Jews for killing Jesus and just about everyone else.
Wherever Mel was before he drove into Hollywood legend last week, we sure hope it was a GREAT party.
We were told that Mel called Nick Nolte to help him make bail.
But Mel’s conduct is hardly bizarre by modern American standards. A few weeks ago, the multi-millionaire heir to the Coors beer fortune was arrested for DUI in his driveway. He had slowly eased through a “stop” sign without coming to a complete halt while going home from a wedding.
Performance enhancing, or just plain “fun inducing” substances are a part of American life. Barry Bonds is now the poster child for steroid use and abuse, even though he has been charged with nothing and we have little to go on as evidence: unless you count his remarkable growth, girth and homer record.
Just last night, Justin Gatlin, the world and Olympic 100 meter champion, the “fastest man in the world,” faced a life ban after admitting he had failed a drugs test. WOW! At least this guy can run from the law if necessary.
Cancer survivor Lance Armstrong, the bicycle “wunderkind” that the French love to hate, has also been under a cloud of suspicion for his evil habits. The French say Lance has been shooting steroids forever. Sac le bleu! Lance denies all the French accusations. But his girlfriend was Sheryl Crowe so I’ve decided whatever he is using is O.K. with me!
Lance’s successor in the American Bicycle Hall of Fame was also accused by the French and others of using too much, let us say, “male hormone.” But he says he is naturally packed and I saw his wife on TV smiling BIG time when he won the Tour de France and I suspect that wasn’t all about bicycling.
Finally, Senator Norm Coleman of Minnesota was informed last week that his 81 year old Dad was caught naked in a car with a 38 year old woman. She was also naked. The car was parked in “broad” daylight next to Red Savoy's Pizza. Red said he had no idea what was on the pizza but he offered to sell us a “slice.” Norm’s Dad could not be reached for comment but his wife, Norm’s Mom, Beverly, said she was shocked by the entire “affair.” Norm’s Dad is now the poster child for the little blue pill…in old peoples’ homes everywhere.
So next time you find a friend, coworker or family member having just too much fun, remind them that this happens now and again. Blame the pharmaceutical, alcohol, and drug “industry.”
But addiction and drug abuse are serious matters so get help. We intend only to educate and inform here in the Examiner.
And if you have any aspirations about making a film about Jesus we suggest you do that before you end up arrested like Mel Gibson.
When Mel is sober and has worked a program of honesty for at least 1 year, I may begin to accept his apologies. Until then... he's a hateful, lying, self-centered MF who will say anything at this time.
Of course, there was no shortage of native-born politicians willing to pander to them. And the suffragists, can't forget them. Until those folks came along, most American socialists seeemed to be utopian socialists who advocated their own separate communities, rather than imposing their views on everyone else.
I may be wrong factually, as I am no expert, but, oh well...
Does that count?
I agree. Time to leave Mel alone. But the MSM won't because they want to see him ground down to nothing. Just a thought: As to why Mel said those things, anger or frustration, or being drunk puts us in the state where we're no longer rational and instead revert to the deepest rut in the brain...what we heard as children. (You sound like your mother and yell something ridiculous.) "Stop that! Your face will freeze like that!" Or "Do you want a spanking?" (Back when it was okay to spank!)Out it comes without rational thought. Mel's father was a rabid Anti-Semite, so dinner conversation must have been quite something.
While it's not OK for Mel to say what he said..
...and oh my goodness, he is paying dearly for it---the media assault on him is constant and furious!!everyone chiming in!!
...( and part of the reason is because he made The Passion of Christ)..I am convinced of this!
Why can Cindy Sheehan get off calling our President vile names....
..and wishing/hoping/desiring vile things to happen to him, PLUS hounding his every move.... ....
..and condemning the United States to our enemies...
..and get a free pass?
Oh never mind....even I know the answer to that.
Mel is bad.
Poor Mel. He's not very bright. Instead of calling them effin Jews, he should have called them effin Hymies. From Hymietown. You know, like Jesse Jackson.
He could have avoided all this mess. You know, like Jesse Jackson.
Maybe if Mel had used the terms like "Hymies" or "F'n Jew Bastards" he would have been ignored and or revered like Jesse and Hillary.
If he'll give me some of his money I won't hold it against him...
Although there are religions which hold the belief that thinking about an evil act is as sinful as actually engaging in that act, secular laws make a definite distinction between thought and behavior. A person who is sexually attracted to children but who is strong enough not to act on his urges may be in serious trouble mentally, but he is in no trouble at all legally.
The Lord may judge those of us who harbor racist thoughts as culpable as those who express them. Of course, being omnipotent, He doesn't need to hear the words to know that we are thinking them. Mere mortals, however, are unable to read our innermost thoughts, so if one is clever enough to keep them to himself, there is no problem. When someone who is in the public eye and whose career could be adversely affected by giving voice to those thoughts, it becomes imperative to suffer one's demons in silence. Mel Gibson failed that basic test, and he is paying the price for it.
As it is, "don't drink and drive" come to mind, and Mel may be quacking like a duck, as they say, and may simply be developing a common, banal case of simple alcoholism.
Now as to never having a disparaging thought regarding "the Jews," or, more properly, that remnant of the tribe of Judah and Benjamin who weren't hauled off into exile and "relocated" a century before the Babylonian captivity, some "Jews" might consider my fundamentalist preference for them, being "entrusted with the Oracles of God," and their being the larger extended family of Joshua Bar Joseph of Nazareth (Jesus, aka "The Christ") a kind of reverse racism, which only needed a plague or a generation's removal from literacy to be turned into the kind of Pogrom so common to times like the 14th and the 20th century.
I can honestly say that I BELIEVE I have no disparaging thoughts for the "Jews," but I can understand Mel's frightened outburst in a Hollywood so self-consciously dominated as it once was by Unorthodox Jews since the arrival of Louis B, Meyer, and some being so reactively hostile to his "Passion," not to mention the unapologetic antisemitism of his father.
So, while Celebrity breeds familiarity, and the larger context of a world-wide rise of both overt and covert antisemitism, it wasn't exactly a comfortable development.
But, in the end, all we have here is a routine DUI where a man who might be developing alcoholism in the tertiary stages, and might need to consider approaching his drinking with caution, especially as a family man.
What a man spews when he drinks too much is not necessarily his inmost thoughts, but is usually, in the case of alcoholics, simply self-serving and defensive.
My father said some AWFUL damn things about me and the rest of his family before he finally quit drinking.... almost always a classic way of diverting attention away from his condition toward some preceived slight or weakness in those around him.
The Devil his-self couldn't have designed a better method of making the genuinely talented Gibson "look a fool."
You won''t find me casting any stones, until he tries starting a Mass Movement using anti-semitism as a unifying hatred.
Sounds like our beloved Road Warrior needs to pick better friends, some who won't let him drive home drunk from a party.
But of Hollywood, as Harry S Truman said of Washington, it's probably equallly true, "if you want a friend in this town, buy a dog."
But anyone who is so pure in thought and motive wouldn't engage in that kind of treatment of Mel Gibson in the first place. If the did bash him, then is shows that they're lying about the other thoughts.