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To: Golden Eagle
whereas the disclosure of a vulnerability or hack does encourage those who look for such things to plan to use them immediately on unsuspecting innocents.

And the non disclosure of such a hack keeps people from knowing there system is open for attack when that hack may already be know by thousands of criminals! Its pure stupidity to assume because I one does not tell the general public about a vulnerability the hacker community wont know about it. Hell, if I was a black hat hacker I would *not* want the bug disclosed to the general public. The longer that only the vendor knows about it the longer I have a victim set completely unaware their house has no front door!

The argument that when we make something illegal criminals wont have it is the same argument gun grabbers use. But the truth is when we take away information about system vulnerabilities from people *only* criminals will have it!

34 posted on 08/02/2006 8:49:21 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3
Its pure stupidity to assume because I one does not tell the general public about a vulnerability the hacker community wont know about it.

LOL, no it's obviously more ignorant to claim the hackers will know about it anyway so you might as well tell them. It's the same argument we hear from those that want us to share all our nuclear secrets with China and Russia. "Why not, they'll get them anyway by stealing, might as well just go ahead and give em to them." Wait, you say the same thing about open source software, don't you.

The argument that when we make something illegal criminals wont have it is the same argument gun grabbers use.

Another failed analogy of yours, with you talking in circles now. Guns are a completely usable finished product, used legally for many authorized purposes. Vulnerabilities aren't guns, they're like a blueprint for making a gun. The only equivalent to guns in this discussion are exploits, but you just said above that there were no good uses of exploits, remember, so why would anyone but criminals have a need for them.

35 posted on 08/02/2006 9:12:53 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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