[Vision]

If the doctor in leilani's post is correct, what could have happened? Bad test? Jealousy?(I've personally seen the hatred Europeans have for American dominance in this race) Is it possible for a man to generate the 4:1 testosterone ratio they're talking about...I mean for guys other than me? /stupid grin

[leilani]

Well (& I think that's what we need this thread for) we need to find that out. We still haven't heard what the Sample "A" T/E ratio was. We still don't know if they found synthetic test (curtains for Floyd if they did.) But lots of people are saying an abnormal read ain't all that abnormal.Several things raise suspicions & real questions (1) They leaked results of the A sample which even former World Anti-doping Officials say is shockingly irresponsible b/c results of this particular test are not necessarily proof he doped at all, only a B sample to duplicate the result & subsequent endocrine profiles performed on Landis himself to rule out natural causes could confirm (2)The test performed by all accounts is not definitive, plenty of innocent causes for a high ratio: alcohol consumption, normal phys/biochem response to injury (his hip), the over the top emotions of what he'd just done, etc or a "perfect storm" combination of some of these things 3) He would have had no motive to do it because even a shot of synthetic Test couldn't have helped him, couldn't have produced his "Lazarus" performance in Stage 17 and every athelete outside the Special Olympics would know that. The rush to judgement we've seen from some sports journalists seems awfully premature at this point.So we really do need to track what the experts trained in endocrinology are saying & a heck of a lot of 'em are saying this morning "whoa, not so fast!"