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To: PatrickHenry
there is no support for Hitler’s ideas in Darwin’s writings.

Possibly true.

However, "Darwinism" today means much more than what was written by Darwin, just as Marxism today incorporates a lot of ideas never propounded by Marx.

For instance, Darwin himself carefully avoided any attempt to explain how life came into being, as opposed to the differention of species in existing life forms. However, Darwinists today try to explain not only the emergence of life from non-living matter, but some even try to use the theory to deny the possibility of God being involved in the creation of the Universe.

The Nazis saw history as a struggle between "races," in much the same way Marxists see in it a struggle between "classes."

Nazis are much more Darwinist insofar as they view the issue as one of survival of the fittest race, with little or no morality involved.

Marxists, OTOH, base their appeal largely on moral grounds of fairness, equality, etc.

In a very real sense, Marxist ideology is a Christian heresy whereas Nazism is an attempt to revive pre-Christian and anti-Christian ideologies.

In power, of course, the two ideologies function very similarly.

12 posted on 07/23/2006 9:10:48 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer
Nazis are much more Darwinist insofar as they view the issue as one of survival of the fittest race, with little or no morality involved.

There is nothing in Darwin to justify deliberate extermination, and Hitler never claimed any such justification. (Hitler studied art and architecture, not biology.) Actually, eliminating genetic diversity is almost a guarantee of eventual extinction. Not very Darwinian at all. And attempting to have government actually manage the process is far more like Intelligent Design than Darwin's unguided process of evolution.

13 posted on 07/23/2006 9:16:56 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: Restorer
For instance, Darwin himself carefully avoided any attempt to explain how life came into being, as opposed to the differention of species in existing life forms. However, Darwinists today try to explain not only the emergence of life from non-living matter, but some even try to use the theory to deny the possibility of God being involved in the creation of the Universe.

Wile it is true that a few scientists opine in this fashion and many dishonest creationists claim that the above is actually a part of the theory of evolution, the theory itself makes no such statements on either subject.

Nazis are much more Darwinist insofar as they view the issue as one of survival of the fittest race, with little or no morality involved.

"Fitness" in the context of evolution is relative to environment with no absolute standard.
14 posted on 07/23/2006 9:18:41 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Restorer
However, "Darwinism" today means much more than what was written by Darwin,

Actually it means much less. "Darwinism" is just a code word used by Creationists for whatever they don't like.

16 posted on 07/23/2006 9:19:28 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate - Robert A Heinlein)
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To: Restorer
However, Darwinists today try to explain not only the emergence of life from non-living matter, but some even try to use the theory to deny the possibility of God being involved in the creation of the Universe.

mmmm, not al of us.

God IS the universe. Darwin is merely a grain of sand.

47 posted on 07/23/2006 10:10:26 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Restorer
In power, of course, the two ideologies function very similarly.

Perhaps because evil and power hungry people camouflage themselves with trendy ideas.

51 posted on 07/23/2006 10:15:49 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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