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Darwinian Conservatism: How Darwinian science refutes the Left’s most sacred beliefs.
The American Thinker ^ | 23 July 2006 | Jamie Glazov and Larry Arnhart

Posted on 07/23/2006 8:49:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: freedumb2003

Hey, we are having fireworks tonite, a Sunday nite, down at Capitol Lake in Olympia Washington, as the ending to what we call Lakefair, a festival of rides, lots of food, and crafts...

Oh, gosh darn it, I am stuck here at home, and cant see them because I dont want to drive down there, and hunt for parking, miles away...so I get all the pain and none of the 'fun' threads...

See there, I can whine and cry with the best of them...

What I said about our Lakefair was absolutely true...we went year after year after year, when the kids were young...now that I am a 'senior' lady, I chose to stay home...


421 posted on 07/23/2006 8:32:23 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
But it was indeed your opinion. I read quite well.

You are the one who is being evasive and everyone can see for themselves.

I have been asking you a sincere question over and over, yet you fear to respond.

I will ask you again and if you have the courage to test your opinion, then you will answer for all the lurkers.

How old was Adam, exactly one half second after he was created?

422 posted on 07/23/2006 8:35:30 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: A0ri

Those who support evolution, never include how the universe took shape into evolution...

That is the job of the creationists...they INSIST that evolution talks about the beginning and formation of the universe...they want to INSIST on this, because they somehow think its strengthens their own particular views...

I am beginning to believe, that you have no idea what evolution actually states...

We have many biologists on FR, who can give you a reasonable description of evolution, and will certainly assure you that evolution does not discuss the beginnings of the universe...

Its only the creationists that insist that evolution addresses the beginning of the universe....


423 posted on 07/23/2006 8:36:48 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

Amazing. Talkorigins describing the nature and origins of the early universe.


424 posted on 07/23/2006 8:41:17 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"Your posts are evidence. You failed miserably to answer my points.

I keep hearing about how I've "failed miserably", You must think I'm President Bush?

Throw me a clue here, which post{s} do you have in mind?

425 posted on 07/23/2006 8:41:58 PM PDT by labette (Why stand ye here all the day idle?)
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To: Old Landmarks
"But it was indeed your opinion. I read quite well."

No it wasn't. Read again. I am not the one who is of the opinion that God would create the universe to appear to be 15 billion years old but really only be 6,000. The people who believe that believe in a lying, trickster God that wants to deceive them.

"I have been asking you a sincere question over and over, yet you fear to respond."

Your question is about as sincere as a Bill Clinton *hello* to a young woman. It had nothing to do with what I was saying.
426 posted on 07/23/2006 8:41:59 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: labette

"I keep hearing about how I've "failed miserably","

Because you have.

"You must think I'm President Bush?"

No. Unlike you, I don't think that Bush has failed miserably.

"Throw me a clue here, which post{s} do you have in mind?"

All of them have failed to answer my points.


427 posted on 07/23/2006 8:43:45 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
It was your opinion, you offered it.

I notice you keep offering little sidesteps but you fear to answer the question.

If you can gather the courage here is the question again.

How old was Adam exactly one half second after he was created?

428 posted on 07/23/2006 8:45:27 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: A0ri

You must mis-understand science when it tries to fit the pieces together. To explain a concept you must pull together the pieces.


429 posted on 07/23/2006 8:45:45 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


430 posted on 07/23/2006 8:46:40 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dimensio
Hey man "Darwinists" do not want rationality or actual inquiry any more than any kneejerk fundamentalist.

Please support this claim with evidence.

What do you want evidence for? That kneejerk fundamentalists do not want rationality or actual inquiry?

Not surprised you'd take umbrage at that given you are a perfect example of kneejerk fundamentalist.

We only need to back to post 130 of this thread to observe a classic case of irrationality and lack of any desire for inquiry on the part of a kneejerk fanaticist.

431 posted on 07/23/2006 8:46:41 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Old Landmarks

"It was your opinion, you offered it."

No, it wasn't. Please show where I said that God could create the world to look to be 15 billion years old but only be 6,000 years old.


"I notice you keep offering little sidesteps but you fear to answer the question."

Maybe I concluded the question was stupid.


432 posted on 07/23/2006 8:46:59 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Still waiting. Twist my words some more, maybe they'll come out in Latin.


433 posted on 07/23/2006 8:48:11 PM PDT by labette (Why stand ye here all the day idle?)
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To: A0ri

Perhaps we are misunderstanding each other here..I am understanding you to mean, the creation of earth, the sun, the moon, the stars, all the heavenly bodies, is what you meant by the origins of the universe...you seem to be applying origins of the universe to biological entities, which I am not...

Please clarify...


434 posted on 07/23/2006 8:48:35 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom

I didn't know they were going to do that -- and it certainly startled me.

And I do need my beauty sleep.

Badly.


435 posted on 07/23/2006 8:49:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

You got a demigod - wow!


436 posted on 07/23/2006 8:50:29 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: labette
"Still waiting. Twist my words some more, maybe they'll come out in Latin."

I haven't twisted anything. I merely stated the truth: you have not answered my points. There were no words of yours to *twist*.

I'm still waiting for you to answer them.
437 posted on 07/23/2006 8:51:14 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: tallhappy
And I personally appreciate the heck out of you for showing up to provide your own special brand of rationality and actual inquiry.
438 posted on 07/23/2006 8:51:56 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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To: furball4paws

"You got a demigod - wow!"

It's not as great as you would think, he's so full of himself...


439 posted on 07/23/2006 8:52:12 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: A0ri
Amazing. Talkorigins describing the nature and origins of the early universe.

Talkorigins is required to limit itself to one scientific discipline?

Why?

(ps. I did a bunch of years of grad school, half in evolution and related fields. The big bang and the rest of that never came up. Different field of study!)

440 posted on 07/23/2006 8:52:57 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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