Posted on 07/22/2006 10:43:33 PM PDT by numapompilius
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Also, the Americans were 1st world Americans. I think we can assume that most, if not all, were Christians.
So should we deport the Arizona bar?
Just like at those pro-Pali rallies.
There must be a lot of American anti-Semites at these rallies.
It would fit within your propaganda, though.
I know the truth. If you want to believe that my friends are terrorist supporters, its your loss. Based on your actions on this board, I can say with 100% confidence that they have nothing to gain from your friendship, while you are rejecting a rare opportunity to spend time with decent human beings.
The thing of it is, "Borat" had to (and obviously did) hunt for people like that for his show. Or he could've just visted Harvard.
Yeah, I think they filmed at three or four other bars before they found one where the majority of the patrons were happy to engage in an anti-Semitic singalong. Can't say I like those odds.
Or he could've just visted Harvard.
Naw, they're usually more subtle about it among the country club set.
"I know the truth. If you want to believe that my friends are terrorist supporters, its your loss. Based on your actions on this board, I can say with 100% confidence that they have nothing to gain from your friendship, while you are rejecting a rare opportunity to spend time with decent human beings."
I know the truth and I'd have nothing to gain from any further relations with followers of the prophet. Certainly no loss on my part.
It's tucked behind some registration page. I'm not going to go through that now, but the title is "Muslims’ goals: Be active, be moderate." Looks like it was sneered at by Jihad Media's FrontPage Magazine.
Actually, Bushido made them fanatically loyal to the emperor....
Doesn't jibe with the Generals' virtual coup, does it?
No, that's not the issue that gave me the impression that you are a non-Westerner.
What was it then?
Spin, spin, spin goes the zimdog.
Spin? No. You're responsible for your words and your mistakes. You can't blame Muslims for your intellectual laziness or your overrelaince on Jihad Media. When you forgive someone's oath, you remove it and free them from it. That's what "expiate" means in this instance.
So God is sanctioning Muslims to free non-Muslims of their oaths?
M.M. Ali, 66:2 "Allah has indeed sanctioned the expiation of your oaths; and Allah is your Patron, and He is the Knowing, the Wise."
More likely that God is telling the faithful that they can negotiate the dissolution of an oath. The Oxford English Dictionary also takes this position. See especially #3,4,5:
{dag}1. trans. To avert (evil) by religious ceremonies; to avert the evil portended by (a prodigy or prophecy). Obs. exc. Antiq.
{dag}2. To cleanse, purify (a person, a city) from guilt or pollution by religious ceremonies. Occas. Const. of. Obs.
3. To do away or extinguish the guilt of (one's sin); to offer or serve as a propitiation for. {dag}to expiate oneself (rare): to do penance.
4. To pay the penalty of.
5. To make amends or reparation for.
{dag}6. intr. To make expiation for. Obs.
{dag}7. To extinguish (a person's rage) by suffering it to the full; to end (one's sorrows, a suffering life) by death. Obs.
Not until you mention that there is a specific ideology one has in mind...
I'm sure "the Jooooooos" would draw a high percentage of responses in favor of expulsion. Maybe even a majority. Doesn't mean those respondants are in the right.
It's not because I don't like their religion, it's that their religion - if actually practiced - is a direct threat to this country and the Constitution.
The day that accepting the shahada, praying five times a day, giving alms to the poor, fasting during Ramadan, and aspiring to travel to Mecca is -- in and of itself -- "a direct threat to this country and the Constitution," we might have someting to talk about. Until then, you will remain a shrill little fascist trying to kick millions of people out of the country based soley on their Semitic religion, their alleged üntermenschen qualities, and your personal distaste for America's love of freedom, individual rights and the rule of law.
Pretty flimsy excuse, given the facts.
Your reference to cultures.
Responding to your earlier reference to cultures in #337.
Allah removing his oaths meant what to you?
"Remove" doesn't account for the negotiation or price paid to break an agreement. "Expiate" does.
Ah, but you ignore the Hadiths and Sunna. Islam is more complex than the Five Pillars.
Indeed. But the Five Pillars are incumbent upon all Muslims, just as believing in Christ is incumbent upon all Christians.
There are millions here now?
Somewhere between the admittedly low figure of one million (CUNY study) and the admittedly high figure of 7 million (Cornell study -- although a CAIR "study" also got 7 million, their methods were complete BS) and most people put the figure between 2 and 3 million, a little less than 1% of the population.
When did that happen.
It started in the early 17th century and through immigration, conversion and population growth, the numbers have increased.
It's precisely my love of freedom that fuels my opposition to Islam and its aims. It's one reason I work in the field that I do.
Your hatred for Muslims is why you're an engineer? That's scary.
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Many of who?
"Many of who?"
Jews, unfortunately. Not sure why.
"Responding to your earlier reference to cultures in #337."
Your reference indicated you were not from this one.
""Remove" doesn't account for the negotiation or price paid to break an agreement. "Expiate" does."
No, expiate doesn't mean "paid" here, but "forgiven" as in "forgiven a debt".
"Indeed. But the Five Pillars are incumbent upon all Muslims, just as believing in Christ is incumbent upon all Christians."
As you continue to ignore the Hadiths...
"It started in the early 17th century and through immigration, conversion and population growth, the numbers have increased."
My point, obviously, is that this number is vastly inflated.
"Your hatred for Muslims is why you're an engineer? That's scary."
Not quite, son.
In light of my many, many references to my desire to protect my fellow Americans, I will have to ask you for the C&V on that one as well.
No, expiate doesn't mean "paid" here, but "forgiven" as in "forgiven a debt".
Read the OED entry for "expiate" again.
As you continue to ignore the Hadiths...
The Five Pillars are required of all Muslims. The Hadiths are a collection of sayings of Muhammad that have been interpreted various ways in various places at various times depending on a number of scholarly considerations. If only those who followed everying Jesus said were Christians, we wouldn't have many Christians.
My point, obviously, is that this number is vastly inflated.
When you conduct a study of greater scientific rigor than those conducted by CUNY, the National Opinion Research Center, the Glenmary Research Center, the American Jewish Committee, the University of Chicago, the Hartford Institute for Religious Research, or Cornell University, then you can discuss whether or not the numbers are inflated. In the meantime, I hope you now recognize the magnitude of your crime against America.
"Many Jews won't side with Israel on what? "
Defending themselves. That's what.
"I don't believe Israel has taken a side with regards to your lebensraum fantasy."
It's amusing listening to a defender of fascism-cum-religion calling someone else a Nazi.
Coming from someone who advocates disenfranchising and expelling the adherents of an unpopular religion because of their supposed "incompatibility", "barbarity" and "hidden threat to the state" ... it's amusing that you pretend that fascism-cum-anything is a bad thing.
It seems you are no longer 'alive'. I hope you enjoyed your stay.....
I think most Jews in America, a large percentage of whom are survivors of the Holocaust or descendents of survivors, would have very serious reservations about any rhetoric that equates an unpopular minority religion to disloyalty to the country.
"Coming from someone who advocates disenfranchising and expelling the adherents of an unpopular religion because of their supposed "incompatibility", "barbarity" and "hidden threat to the state" .."
That "threat to the state" isn't all that hidden. This is a fifth column giving aid and comfort to terrorists.
"it's amusing that you pretend that fascism-cum-anything is a bad thing."
Islam is inherently fascistic. Has been since the beginning. Those people at CAIR and in mosques across the country who desire the imposition of Shariah law in this country will fail.
It is too common, but in a case such as this one -- when people are proposing that those who follow a "barbaric" minority religion cannot be true patriots and must be expelled -- it is apt.
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