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When will it be time to expel Muslims

Posted on 07/22/2006 10:43:33 PM PDT by numapompilius

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; lgf; terrorism; unconstitutional
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To: j_tull

"Oh dear, I've been called a name. It's curtains, for sure. In fairness, here's a name for you... Wanker."

"Yankee" is only an insult if you're ashamed of where you live.

"Funny, most folks living in places where they say "y'all" are actual conservatives."

Yep. We are.

"You don't sound much like one."

Just what do you expect an actual conservative to sound like?

"As for reading Greek history, I work for a living, it's not very high on my list."

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates.


101 posted on 07/24/2006 7:08:15 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: sinkspur

"You can't stay logically consistent."

I'm completely consistent.

"You want to lock up Muslim-Americans because some Muslims in the Middle East want to kill us."

You completely miss the point - again. Muslims in the ME want to kill us because of ISLAM. The same ISLAM practiced by lovely people like the Beltway sniper. The problem IS the ideology and what it represents.

"Yet, you wouldn't have locked up German-Americans, even though Germans WERE killing us in Europe."

I most certainly would have locked up NAZIs. I believe we generally did that back then. You keep seeing "Muslim" as an ethnic group. It's not.


102 posted on 07/24/2006 7:10:23 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus

I never suggested "Yankee" was an insult, though I've no doubt that was your intention. Had you gone beyond the flag on my homepage, you may have caught that. Besides, I am a Red Sox fan, so Yankee IS an insult.

I won't try to (correction, I cannot) out-classic quote you; I give, and bow to your obvious superiority in that important skill. When you earn your first dollar, we should talk.


103 posted on 07/24/2006 7:15:44 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once the leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: j_tull

"When you earn your first dollar, we should talk."

I'm an engineer. I do quite well. Doesn't mean I don't take the time to read a book outside my profession on occasion.


104 posted on 07/24/2006 7:21:50 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus

God bless you then, P. The comment which prompted my original reply follows:

Sinkspur ->"Deporting American citizens for their religion is unconstitutional."

Enlightened Greek reading engineer wanker-> "I see the local ACLU rep has spoken...."

You earlier asked what I expected a conservative to sound like.. That AIN'T it. I'm weary of you. Good luck on your reading for enlightmentment program.


105 posted on 07/24/2006 7:32:44 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once the leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: Peisistratus

1). Your link cites no verse from the Qur'an
2). It does say that Muslims can take an oath of citizenship
3). You're injecting yourself into other people's debate
4). (And in a way that causes us to question your intellect)


106 posted on 07/24/2006 7:45:10 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: j_tull
Besides, I am a Red Sox fan, so Yankee IS an insult.

It sure is!

107 posted on 07/24/2006 7:48:58 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"(1). Your link cites no verse from the Qur'an "

Funny you use that spelling.

"2). It does say that Muslims can take an oath of citizenship"

It also says they can't mean it.


"3). You're injecting yourself into other people's debate"

Actually, you were later to this thread than I.

"4). (And in a way that causes us to question your intellect)"

Who is "us", here? To be considered a fool by fools is no insult.


108 posted on 07/24/2006 8:21:17 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: j_tull

"You earlier asked what I expected a conservative to sound like.. That AIN'T it."

A conservative would recognize that Islam isn't just a religion. A conservative who bothered to read up on the subject of Islam would unerstand that quite clearly. Your argument is based on PC.

"I'm weary of you. Good luck on your reading for enlightmentment program."

Sounds like you need it more than I.


109 posted on 07/24/2006 8:22:42 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus
Sounds like you need it more than I.

To you alone, FRiend. Good luck.

110 posted on 07/24/2006 8:24:58 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once the leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: j_tull

"To you alone, FRiend. Good luck."

Have something against reading books?


111 posted on 07/24/2006 8:25:26 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: youallaresofunny
America is now the laughing stock of Europe,

LOL! That would be Eurabia, the rotting collection of effete brainless fools with the negative native birth rate and burgeoning Islamofascist communities and cities where no police officer dare go, and where Sharia law reigns supreme.

Laugh now while there are still enough of you snail eaters alive to make a noise.

Next stop on the Eurabia Express: Dhimmiville.

112 posted on 07/24/2006 8:31:23 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: j_tull; Peisistratus; sinkspur

Tool, or tuller or whatever, do you actually have something to say, or do you just want to keep displaying your ignorance of basic history while hiding behind the fact that some other historical personage would have known? Now that's almost as smart as...

Sinkspur...you keep repeating the same points and ignoring the argument. Either answer the questions or stop posting and wasting everybody's time. I have written already two posts explaining why you, zimdog, and several others on here misunderstand the first amendment. So far you have only made an inane argument about the age of religions, when the Constitution mentions no such thing. Please address my points in the one long and one shorter post I listed in response to you and politicall, otherwise I should have to repeat myself and this is tedious.


113 posted on 07/24/2006 10:08:09 PM PDT by numapompilius
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To: Peisistratus
Funny you use that spelling.

Funny you consider proper spelling a vice rather than a meritous practice. What would Aristotle say to that?

It also says they can't mean it.

Perhaps you should check that link again, because it says nothing of the sort.

Actually, you were later to this thread than I.

The thread is open to all. I asked another FReeper to provide evidence supporting his claim and you jumped in. I don't mind it, given the position I am in (the correct one) but others might not appreciate you joining their side and then undermining their arguments. Because you're new here, you might need that spelled out for you.

To be considered a fool by fools is no insult.

You obviously have the weight of experience on your side here and since your experience has told you that to be considered a fool by rational people is more insulting than being considered a fool by fools, I will not argue. That said, we don't suffer fools here. No matter who considers you to be one, you are considered a fool. Please stay away.

114 posted on 07/24/2006 10:59:41 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Peisistratus
I most certainly would have locked up NAZIs. I believe we generally did that back then.

If you could tell us at what prisions Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh were kept for the duration of the War, it would helpd your argument tremendously.

In the meantime, recognize that your claim that the Nazi party (founded and flourishing in a specific time, with the specific goal of Germany's supremacy in Europe) and the religion of Islam (with 1400+ years of history across 6 continents, numerous denominations, juridical schools and points of internal theological dispute) is a specious and ahistorical one. Keep reading your books -- you might learn something.

115 posted on 07/24/2006 11:12:38 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: numapompilius; sinkspur; Valin

I see you account has been banned. Again, the Constitution stands tall and its assailants slink back to their caves.


116 posted on 07/24/2006 11:15:01 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"Funny you consider proper spelling a vice rather than a meritous practice. What would Aristotle say to that?"

There is no "proper spelling" in this case. "Qur'an" or "Koran" are all correct.

"Perhaps you should check that link again, because it says nothing of the sort."

Perhaps you should read it. It clearly says that no oath can contradict the Deen or Shariah.

"You obviously have the weight of experience on your side here and since your experience has told you that to be considered a fool by rational people is more insulting than being considered a fool by fools,"

You consider your viewpoint the rational one. Amusing.

"No matter who considers you to be one, you are considered a fool. Please stay away."

Considered so by whom? You?


117 posted on 07/25/2006 6:30:35 AM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: zimdog

"and the religion of Islam (with 1400+ years of history across 6 continents, numerous denominations, juridical schools and points of internal theological dispute) is a specious and ahistorical one."

Hardly. You are quite ignorant of the history and belief system of "Islam". Why don't you read up on the subject?

Both are supremacist and fascistic.


118 posted on 07/25/2006 6:31:45 AM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus
You are quite ignorant of the history and belief system of "Islam". Why don't you read up on the subject?

Fools are sometimes correct, but you would have to enjoy an unrivalled ignorance to so smugly claim that someone you never met is ignorant.

119 posted on 07/27/2006 3:21:59 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Peisistratus
Perhaps you should read it. It clearly says that no oath can contradict the Deen or Shariah.

Which is how Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christians (particuarly the 19th century Abolitionist movement), etc have defined their relationships to the government: Follow the earthly laws unless they contradict God's laws. And Jehovah's witnesses believe that oaths of allegience are the same as idolatry and refuse to take them. Would you say they're worse than that nasty Arab family that lives down the street?

120 posted on 07/27/2006 3:33:04 PM PDT by zimdog
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