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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

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To: Wyatt's Torch

16:57 CEST 188.5km/12km to go
Time bonus for the win: 20, 12, 8 seconds. If Landis beats Sastre by 6'00, and Pereiro by 7'38, he'll take yellow.

Landis is at the summit of the Joux Plane with over five minutes on Sastre.

Current race situation

Floyd Landis (Phonak - 11th on GC at 8'08)
Carlos Sastre (CSC) at 5'15
Damiano Cuengo (Lampre) at 5'50
Christophe Moreau (AG2R) at 6'09
Cadel Evans (Davitamon), Frank Schleck (CSC) at ?
Michael Boogerd, Denis Menchov (Rabobank)
Oscar Pereiro (Caisse d'Epargne)maillot jaune , Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank), Haimar Zubeldia (Euskaltel), Andreas Kloden, Patrik Sinkewitz (T-Mobile) at 7'02
Cyril Dessel (AG2R)
Levi Leipheimer (Gerolsteiner), George Hincapie (Discovery), various others


421 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:13 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: luv2ski

Make that 550... ;>)


422 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:20 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: gopwinsin04

OLN commenting on how Floyd was dismissed in press as having no style in his wins - but that would change with his win today.


423 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:25 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: gopwinsin04
This is working in Landis's favor.

Pereiro is trying to chase.
424 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:35 AM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: commish
And Dessel has BLOWN!!! Ca brise le coeur. Mon pauvre 'ti Chou-chou.
425 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:39 AM PDT by leilani (Tu avais raison, Scarlett. Demain fut un autre jour!)
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To: commish

I am hoping he could steam back a minute on the way to the finish line.


426 posted on 07/20/2006 7:58:49 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit
To borrow a quote from Better Off Dead, "Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way...turn."

Go Floyd!!!

427 posted on 07/20/2006 7:59:02 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: bwteim
I will say it now, Floyd Landis will win the Saturday time trial and the Tour de France.
428 posted on 07/20/2006 7:59:02 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Eurotwit

Yeah, Baby! Go Floyd Go!!


429 posted on 07/20/2006 7:59:28 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Ready4Freddy
Floyd is over the top.. now we wait to see the actual time checks at the top.

GO FLOYD GO!!!!

430 posted on 07/20/2006 7:59:32 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Vision

16:59 CEST
Sastre is now 1km from the top of the mighty Joux-Plane, 5'12 behind flyin' Floyd. Moreau is at 5'58, ahead of Cunego now, and the yellow jersey is at 7'21.

Floyd is starting the descent.

Current race situation

Floyd Landis (Phonak - 11th on GC at 8'08)
Carlos Sastre (CSC) at 5'12
Damiano Cuengo (Lampre) at ?
Christophe Moreau (AG2R) at 5'58
Cadel Evans (Davitamon), Frank Schleck (CSC) at ?
Michael Boogerd, Oscar Pereiro (Caisse d'Epargne) maillot jaune, Haimar Zubeldia (Euskaltel), Andreas Kloden, Patrik Sinkewitz (T-Mobile) at 7'21
Denis Menchov, Michael Rasmusssen (Rabobank)
Cyril Dessel (AG2R)
Levi Leipheimer (Gerolsteiner), George Hincapie (Discovery), various others


431 posted on 07/20/2006 8:00:48 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: commish

WOw, Perreiro has some fight left in him. He looked totally cooked on the last climb. I am officially impressed.


432 posted on 07/20/2006 8:00:54 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish
16:57 - It’s All Downhill Now Floyd!

Landis has reached the top of the final climb of stage 17. He is going to follow in the footsteps of: Greg LeMond, Davis Phinney, Jeff Pierce, Andy Hampsten, Lance Armstrong, Tyler Hamilton, George Hincapie and Dave Zabriskie... the other Americans to win a stage at the Tour.

16:56 - Situation With 15km To Go

Landis is going to win the stage unless disaster happens on the descent. His advantage with 15km to go (ie. three kilometers to climb) was: 5’30" to Sastre 6’04" to Cunego 6’55" to Evans and Schleck 7’05" to Pereiro, Rasmussen et al

433 posted on 07/20/2006 8:01:14 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: commish

Now it's a countdown.


1 097 PEREIRO SIO, Oscar ESP CEI 74:38:05.000 00:00:00.000
2 014 SASTRE, Carlos ESP CSC 74:39:55.000 00:01:50.000
3 021 KLÖDEN, Andréas GER TMO 74:40:34.000 00:02:29.000
4 035 DESSEL, Cyril FRA A2R 74:40:48.000 00:02:43.000
5 061 EVANS, Cadel AUS DVL 74:41:01.000 00:02:56.000
6 051 MENCHOV, Denis RUS RAB 74:42:03.000 00:03:58.000
7 026 ROGERS, Michael AUS TMO 74:44:52.000 00:06:47.000
8 031 MOREAU, Christophe FRA A2R 74:45:08.000 00:07:03.000
9 041 LEIPHEIMER, Levi USA GST 74:45:51.000 00:07:46.000
10 129 ZUBELDIA, Haimar ESP EUS 74:46:11.000 00:08:06.000
11 071 LANDIS, Floyd USA PHO 74:46:13.000 00:08:08.000


434 posted on 07/20/2006 8:01:23 AM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: gopwinsin04

That'd be delicious.


435 posted on 07/20/2006 8:01:56 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Vision

Anybody's who's watching, has Bob Rolls killed anybody by accident with his hands yet while he's talking? I'd imagine he's pretty excited, and the more excited he gets, the more his arms get going :)


436 posted on 07/20/2006 8:02:40 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: bwteim

Sastre crests at 5:08. Landis should put time into that on the descent though.


437 posted on 07/20/2006 8:03:05 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: bwteim

17:01 CEST 192.5km/8km to go
The descent will be critical. Landis is the best descender in the world, but he'll be also very tired. Just hold it up lad!

Sastre puffs his way to the summit, doing a great ride today, and he could also take yellow.

Current race situation

Floyd Landis (Phonak - 11th on GC at 8'08)
Carlos Sastre (CSC) at 5'14
Damiano Cuengo (Lampre) at ?
Christophe Moreau (AG2R) at 5'58
Frank Schleck (CSC) at ?
Michael Boogerd, Oscar Pereiro (Caisse d'Epargne) maillot jaune, Haimar Zubeldia (Euskaltel), Andreas Kloden, Patrik Sinkewitz (T-Mobile), Cadel Evans (Davitamon) at 7'04
Denis Menchov, Michael Rasmusssen (Rabobank)
Cyril Dessel (AG2R)
Levi Leipheimer (Gerolsteiner), George Hincapie (Discovery), various others


438 posted on 07/20/2006 8:03:13 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: commish
WOw, Perreiro has some fight left in him. He looked totally cooked on the last climb. I am officially impressed.

It's almost as ballsy a performance as Landis' today.

439 posted on 07/20/2006 8:03:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: BaBaStooey

Even letour.fr only lists 8 American winners prior to Landis...


440 posted on 07/20/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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