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I'd like opinions from knowledgeable rifle-owners. I'm looking at getting my first hunting type rifle (deer hunting).

I want something inexpensive and I like that both of these models come with a scope, even if it is far from a top quality scope.

I intend on getting .30-06 caliber.

Thanks for all input.

I'd also ask on AR15.com, but the site is down for extended maintenance.

1 posted on 07/16/2006 1:23:23 PM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
Browning A-bolt...

Available in many calibres and color schemes...

NOT inexpensive.... but dead-on accurate, excellent workmanship and will last mannnnny seasons...
worth the extra bucks...

2 posted on 07/16/2006 1:30:36 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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You don't need a 30-06 for deer hunting, in fact that's more gun than you need unless you plan on using it for larger game also. Having said that, it will do a fine job on whitetail. If you're loooking to save money here you could get something in a smaller caliber for less and get more quality.

I've taken deer with a .22 mag although that's a little small. Maybe a .223 or even a .270? Savage has a reputation for accuracy and reasonable prices. Look at CZ, the czech manufacturer. They make excelent rifles at reasonable prices.


3 posted on 07/16/2006 1:34:55 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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Well as with the Savage guy on the radio, I'm sure the rifle has a LOT of pop, but very little stop :)

Go with the Remington :)


6 posted on 07/16/2006 1:43:14 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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The Savage is the way to go if you are fixed in this price range. The Savage WILL be more accurate, has far more accessories available and comes with a better, easily adjustable trigger. I also recommend getting a PAST recoil shield if the caliber is the '06 round. Firing just a few rounds off the bench sighting in is enough to develop a fine flinch if you are used to the recoil of an AR.


9 posted on 07/16/2006 2:29:23 PM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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If cost is a concern, go with the Savage. Accurate as hell, and cheap. Only bad point used to be their trigger. Get it with the accu trigger, or have a gunsmith do a trigger job on it. If you can spend more, go with the A-bolt, or a BAR. If you're hunting in thick woods, consider a Marlin lever action in .30-30. Consider the new model with the 24" barrel that handles the new Hornady ammo if you're shooting out to 150 or more yards.


10 posted on 07/16/2006 3:01:27 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Have a look at the Howa M-1500 Lightning series. Better trigger pull than the Savage much more accurate than the Remington and you can choose between the Leupold VX1-39x50 scope or the Nikko-Stirling 3-9x40 scope packages.

Howa used to make actions for the Weatherby 1500, S&W 1500 and the Mossberg 1500.Shopping around will get the price down towards the Savage 111 range.


11 posted on 07/16/2006 4:50:28 PM PDT by managusta (corruptissima republica plurimae leges)
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I have a Remington 710 in 30-06. It's a decent gun. However, about 6 months after I purchased it.. I went out and baught a Remington 700 ADL wood stock in 30-06.

Look into the Remington 700... you will spend a little bit more.. but you get a really nice gun. Top it off with a basic Leupold and you can have a nice deer gun for 700-800 dollars!


12 posted on 07/16/2006 8:53:40 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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I swear by my Savage .223 and they consistently make the top rankings for accuracy. Not all that great to look at, but I camoed mine with spray paint anyway. BTW, 3 holes in a dime at 100 yards. I'd go larger for deer.


13 posted on 07/16/2006 9:33:43 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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I like my .30-06 rifles, a 1903 Springfield and a Garand.
14 posted on 07/17/2006 4:07:41 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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