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To: Jameison
But the it's not a 12 million or zero option. Never was. That's the straw man's argument being spewed out by the illegal allien loving jokers. And it's not working.

So you are starting off by saying our plan can't really catch all of them, but we will make them all felons so we can add another 20 million to the rolls, making catching the murderers even tougher.

Everything to you is a straw man. But then the 20 million or 0 option is not in the Senate plan either. Since at least 25 to 50 % would not meet the requirements, the Senate plan culls it down so that we can concentrate on those we truly want out of here. Yours adds 10 15 million productive workers and families.

You don't appear to know much about terrorists. Apart from tying to use terrorism as a bogeyman for your "give-a-free-pass-to-iilegals" agenda.

Well, that bogyman label does show the extent of your knowledge. And your give a free pass comment shows your knowledge of the Senate plan. Zero plus zero still equals zero.

Not only have I "run into" those who know Islamofacist vermin, I have actually MET some of those vermin and lived amongst them. You should try living outside this country some time.

Yes, I see people all the time trying desperately to make themselves look like experts. You know nothing about me, my history, education, experience, or anything else, but yet you pretend to. Quit bragging about all your alleged experience and expertise and stick to the issues.

We have already had plenty of Islamofacist terrorists caught at the Mexican border already, as plenty of posts at FR have already shown. What that means is that there are plenty more we haven't caught, given that we don't come anywhere near close to catching all illegals aliens streaming in through our borders, and Islamofacts terrorists are much tougher and better organized then your run of the mil illegal immigrant.

Which again shows the extent of your interest or knowledge of the real threat to our Nation.

86 posted on 07/17/2006 4:50:20 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
"So you are starting off by saying our plan can't really catch all of them, "
Imam saying exactly what I have said 20 times already:
Its not a zero or 12 million option.
We have to try and deport every single one of the suckers, irrespective of if we will catch every single one of them or not.
The point being, the government is not really trying at all.

"but we will make them all felons so we can add another 20 million to the rolls, making catching the murderers even tougher"

Straw man's argument again.
Any police force will tell you that they put far more resources on murderers than on shop lifters or burglaries.
Put enough resources on illegals, who who have already broken the law by being here, and we'll get most of the suckers back where they came from.
You really don't have anything to say apart from the same discredited nonsense do you?
You keep spewing out the same old meaningless crap over and over again.
Sigh.


"But then the 20 million or 0 option is not in the Senate plan either"

It is.
The Senate starts off by assuming(wrongly) that it will be impossible to deport 12 million, so therefore we'd better just grant amnesty.
Now that's nonsense.
That's where the straw man's argument is.


"Since at least 25 to 50 % would not meet the requirements, the Senate plan culls it down so that we can concentrate on those we truly want out of here. ."


Exactly how are you going to determine those 25-50% again, since the Senate also prohibits federal officials from thoroughly investigating any fake documents presented by these illegal suckers.
'Back in 1986, the amnesty bill led to the greatest productions of fake documents in US history until that time
Ed Meese who was AG at the time has given several interviews on that.
Today the fake documents business is far more advanced than in 1986.



"Yours adds 10 15 million productive workers and families"

It's not "mine".
Get this into your thick head: It's THE LAW.
They broke our immigration laws, they pay the penalties as prescribed by the law TODAY, which is DEPORTATION.
Unfortunately for you the Senate Shamnesty Bill is still NOT the law today.
This is a country of laws. Get it?
89 posted on 07/17/2006 5:20:35 AM PDT by Jameison
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