[Jameison]

"Actually no I don't. Your bill presumes that we can end illegal immigration and deport those here. Are you suggesting this bill won't actually do that? Will we pick and choose which felons we go after? "

Let's try again shall we?
Do we go all out to catch all murderers in this country?
Yes.
Do we end up catching all murderers?
Nope.
We still have murders that were committed 50 years ago, that we haven't solved.
That doesn't mean we stopped trying to catch the perpetrators of every single murder out there.
Same thing with illegal immigrants.
We go all out to deport every single illegal immigrant, put all the brain power and resources we can, like we have done on lots of great projects before. Think the Manhattan Project, The Normandy Landings, the Moon Landings etc etc.
This project is going to take several years and unprecedented effort.
Does that mean we are going to end up deporting every single illegal alien in this country?
Nope.
But the it's not a 12 million or zero option.
Never was.
That's the straw man's argument being spewed out by the illegal allien loving jokers.
And it's not working.



"Considering what I've read so far, yes I'd be dramatically surprised."

Of course you'd be.
You don't appear to know much about terrorists.
Apart from tying to use terrorism as a bogeyman for your "give-a-free-pass-to-iilegals" agenda.

"Because most I have run into who actually understand the mission, history and goals of the Islamic Brotherhood somehow consider them to be the greatest threat to this Country."

Not only have I "run into" those who know Islamofacist vermin, I have actually MET some of those vermin and lived amongst them.
You should try living outside this country some time.


"Again, though you claim expertise in terrorism, you seem oblivious to the fact that few if any come into this Country across the Mexican border"

# 1. By the very nature of it, no one knows exactly who comes across our Mexican borders.

# 2. We have already had plenty of Islamofacist terrorists caught at the Mexican border already, as plenty of posts at FR have already shown.
What that means is that there are plenty more we haven't caught, given that we don't come anywhere near close to catching all illegals aliens streaming in through our borders, and Islamofacts terrorists are much tougher and better organized then your run of the mil illegal immigrant.

[MACVSOG68]

But the it's not a 12 million or zero option. Never was. That's the straw man's argument being spewed out by the illegal allien loving jokers. And it's not working.

So you are starting off by saying our plan can't really catch all of them, but we will make them all felons so we can add another 20 million to the rolls, making catching the murderers even tougher.

Everything to you is a straw man. But then the 20 million or 0 option is not in the Senate plan either. Since at least 25 to 50 % would not meet the requirements, the Senate plan culls it down so that we can concentrate on those we truly want out of here. Yours adds 10 15 million productive workers and families.

You don't appear to know much about terrorists. Apart from tying to use terrorism as a bogeyman for your "give-a-free-pass-to-iilegals" agenda.

Well, that bogyman label does show the extent of your knowledge. And your give a free pass comment shows your knowledge of the Senate plan. Zero plus zero still equals zero.

Not only have I "run into" those who know Islamofacist vermin, I have actually MET some of those vermin and lived amongst them. You should try living outside this country some time.

Yes, I see people all the time trying desperately to make themselves look like experts. You know nothing about me, my history, education, experience, or anything else, but yet you pretend to. Quit bragging about all your alleged experience and expertise and stick to the issues.

We have already had plenty of Islamofacist terrorists caught at the Mexican border already, as plenty of posts at FR have already shown. What that means is that there are plenty more we haven't caught, given that we don't come anywhere near close to catching all illegals aliens streaming in through our borders, and Islamofacts terrorists are much tougher and better organized then your run of the mil illegal immigrant.

Which again shows the extent of your interest or knowledge of the real threat to our Nation.