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To: Jameison
Neither simple nor easy. Can it be done with enough determination, political will, enough brain power, resources etc put into it? Yes.

And by refusing to negotiate with half of Congress, where do you suppose this determination and political will will come from? You will have to do it with current resources and current procedures and laws. You seem to think that the red state conservative congressmen run Congress. They don't. They are part of it, and all the wailing will not change that.

I along with most Americans want comprehensive immigration reform that recognizes that no one is going to seriously catch and send back 20 million illegals. The President understands that. You guys will prevent any meaningful legislation, thereby assuring that the problem only compounds. Apparently this will take a whole new Congress which may take years.

That has never been the way we measure success in any policing work in this country.

Actually, all police forces have measures of success, whether you want to call them quotas on tickets, prosecutions, number of arrests for prostitution, etc. It exists, and most know it. This will be no different. "Body Count".

80 posted on 07/16/2006 2:18:51 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
"And by refusing to negotiate with half of Congress, where do you suppose this determination and political will will come from? "

From the Republican majority in The House, and the majority of Republican in the US Senate(Majority of Republicans in the Senate voted against the evil senate Bill).
We happen to be in the majority. It's not 50/50.
But more than all that, it's not so much the congress, its the Bush administration.
Look, Its quite cute that President Bush has some maid or whatever, who's been in his family like forever, that came here from Mexico (there's a post somewhere here at FR about it I think), but does that mean the President should turn a blind eye to our immigration laws on the books?
No.
He swore an oath of office.
It would help if he tried vigorously enforcing our immigration laws for a change.

"Actually, all police forces have measures of success, whether you want to call them quotas on tickets, prosecutions, number of arrests for prostitution, etc. It exists, and most know it. This will be no different. "Body Count".

There you go again with your non-points.
Quotas? Of course there are measures of success, that's how I have argued that we never have 100% success rates of catching murderers.
Again, if we never stopped trying to catch murderers, when we don't achieve 100% success rates, why on earth stop trying to apprehend the illegal invaders because we can't catch all 12 million illegals today or this year or whatever?
84 posted on 07/17/2006 2:02:19 AM PDT by Jameison
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