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"And by refusing to negotiate with half of Congress, where do you suppose this determination and political will will come from? "

From the Republican majority in The House, and the majority of Republican in the US Senate(Majority of Republicans in the Senate voted against the evil senate Bill).
We happen to be in the majority. It's not 50/50.
But more than all that, it's not so much the congress, its the Bush administration.
Look, Its quite cute that President Bush has some maid or whatever, who's been in his family like forever, that came here from Mexico (there's a post somewhere here at FR about it I think), but does that mean the President should turn a blind eye to our immigration laws on the books?
No.
He swore an oath of office.
It would help if he tried vigorously enforcing our immigration laws for a change.

"Actually, all police forces have measures of success, whether you want to call them quotas on tickets, prosecutions, number of arrests for prostitution, etc. It exists, and most know it. This will be no different. "Body Count".

There you go again with your non-points.
Quotas? Of course there are measures of success, that's how I have argued that we never have 100% success rates of catching murderers.
Again, if we never stopped trying to catch murderers, when we don't achieve 100% success rates, why on earth stop trying to apprehend the illegal invaders because we can't catch all 12 million illegals today or this year or whatever?

From the Republican majority in The House, and the majority of Republican in the US Senate(Majority of Republicans in the Senate voted against the evil senate Bill). We happen to be in the majority. It's not 50/50.

Yes, and this week the House Republicans are going to try and pass a marriage amendment. Wow! Exactly what has the Republican majority accomplished?

Look, Its quite cute that President Bush has some maid or whatever, who's been in his family like forever, that came here from Mexico (there's a post somewhere here at FR about it I think), but does that mean the President should turn a blind eye to our immigration laws on the books? No. He swore an oath of office. It would help if he tried vigorously enforcing our immigration laws for a change.

Congress appropriates and authorizes. ICE does what it can with the funding it has. As for the President, he wants a reasoned (meaning non-extremist) approach that recognizes he is the President of all the people, not just a bunch of red state House members most of whom have never been near the border.

Quotas? Of course there are measures of success, that's how I have argued that we never have 100% success rates of catching murderers.

Not aware of any quotas for murderers.

Again, if we never stopped trying to catch murderers, when we don't achieve 100% success rates, why on earth stop trying to apprehend the illegal invaders because we can't catch all 12 million illegals today or this year or whatever?

I'm saying we will spend precious resources going after the numbers. We will catch those who are productive and deport them. That will take up most of the resources, but it's a hell of a lot easier than going after the drug dealers, gang members etc. And the measure of success will be the numbers, not the history of the "felons".