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Nope. But lots of them are. But its an analogy. We don't stop trying to catch criminals just because we can't watch 100% of criminals. Its not a "deport all 12 million" or "deport 0" option. Get it?

Actually no I don't. Your bill presumes that we can end illegal immigration and deport those here. Are you suggesting this bill won't actually do that? Will we pick and choose which felons we go after?

You'd be surprised. I am wiling to bet I know quite a bit more about about terrorism and terrisitsrist than you do.

Considering what I've read so far, yes I'd be dramatically surprised. Because most I have run into who actually understand the mission, history and goals of the Islamic Brotherhood somehow consider them to be the greatest threat to this Country.

Again. Normal straw man's argument. The 2 are not mutually exclusive. More than that, they are intertwined. Easiest way for terrorists to enter this country without our government having any idea that they are here is through the open borders.

Again, though you claim expertise in terrorism, you seem oblivious to the fact that few if any come into this Country across the Mexican border. Almost all come in with visas. But then since you know a lot more about it than do I, you already knew that.

"Actually no I don't. Your bill presumes that we can end illegal immigration and deport those here. Are you suggesting this bill won't actually do that? Will we pick and choose which felons we go after? "

Let's try again shall we?
Do we go all out to catch all murderers in this country?
Yes.
Do we end up catching all murderers?
Nope.
We still have murders that were committed 50 years ago, that we haven't solved.
That doesn't mean we stopped trying to catch the perpetrators of every single murder out there.
Same thing with illegal immigrants.
We go all out to deport every single illegal immigrant, put all the brain power and resources we can, like we have done on lots of great projects before. Think the Manhattan Project, The Normandy Landings, the Moon Landings etc etc.
This project is going to take several years and unprecedented effort.
Does that mean we are going to end up deporting every single illegal alien in this country?
Nope.
But the it's not a 12 million or zero option.
Never was.
That's the straw man's argument being spewed out by the illegal allien loving jokers.
And it's not working.

"Considering what I've read so far, yes I'd be dramatically surprised."

Of course you'd be.
You don't appear to know much about terrorists.
Apart from tying to use terrorism as a bogeyman for your "give-a-free-pass-to-iilegals" agenda.

"Because most I have run into who actually understand the mission, history and goals of the Islamic Brotherhood somehow consider them to be the greatest threat to this Country."

Not only have I "run into" those who know Islamofacist vermin, I have actually MET some of those vermin and lived amongst them.
You should try living outside this country some time.

"Again, though you claim expertise in terrorism, you seem oblivious to the fact that few if any come into this Country across the Mexican border"

# 1. By the very nature of it, no one knows exactly who comes across our Mexican borders.

# 2. We have already had plenty of Islamofacist terrorists caught at the Mexican border already, as plenty of posts at FR have already shown.
What that means is that there are plenty more we haven't caught, given that we don't come anywhere near close to catching all illegals aliens streaming in through our borders, and Islamofacts terrorists are much tougher and better organized then your run of the mil illegal immigrant.

"Again, though you claim expertise in terrorism, you seem oblivious to the fact that few if any come into this Country across the Mexican border. Almost all come in with visas. But then since you know a lot more about it than do I, you already knew that."

Yeah?
Read this:

"The cartels operating in Mexico and the United States have demonstrated that the weapons they possess can and will be used in protecting their caches," he said. "One informant familiar with the operations of these cartels mentioned to us that the weapons we use are water guns compared to what we will have to come up against if we ever have to. These cartels, known to frequently cross into the United States, possess and use automatic weapons, grenades and grenade launchers. They are also experts in explosives, wiretapping, counter-surveillance, lock-picking and GPS technology. They are able to monitor our office, home and cellular phone conversations. The original members of this cartel were trained in the United States by our government."

Gonzales was one of several law enforcement officials who testified before the Committee on House International Relations Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation on what they see as a serious terrorist threat at the Mexican border.

These powerful criminal gangs would not think twice about bringing terrorists or even weapons of mass destruction into the U.S. if the price was right, the officials agreed. Some of them believe they have already arrived.

"We continue to believe that terrorists have expressed an interest and a desire to exploit the existing vulnerabilities in our border security to enter or attack the United States," said Gonzales.

Some also believe that, for operational reasons, an undetected, illegal entry into the U.S. by al-Qaida agents, is preferable to a legal entry. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667006/posts