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To: Jameison
Illegal immigration, especially through the open Mexican borders is one of the biggest threats to our homeland security in this country

Nonsense. Have you read Holy War on the Home Front by Harvey Kushner? Almost all terrorists come into the Country legally. Most who go across the border come here either for economic reasons or to join families.

We haven't even talked about the over $60 Billion worth of illegal drugs that these illegal immigrants keep bringing into our country through the Mexican border.

Nothing I support prevents that. In fact, as I have told you, the border must be sealed first.

In addition, of course they are threat to this country, our jails are full of illegal immigrants who have committed every crime you can think of. And the fact that we haven't caught someone yet, doesn't necessarily mean they haven't carried out any crime either.

So we assume 20 million illegals are criminals too? Well, since you are making them felons, I guess you are rights. You really have no idea what a threat terrorism is to this Nation, do you? You are too wrapped up in deporting 20 million Mexicans, that terrorists can come later.

We don't need no Social Security cards for no illegals, and the US Senate's attempt to simply forgive illegals who have stolen American's id's, and carried out Social Security fraud by buying fake social security cards, is one of the most heinous parts of this Senate bill, given that even American citizens that carry out such crimes are charged in court and sent to jail. No Social Security for illegals.

So what's your plan for requiring employers, states, local governments, schools, etc to help the feds carry their water for them?

We don't need a new bill to deport illegals, or even secure the borders or deal harshly with employers who employ illegals. We have laws on the books for all that. The House Bill will simply strengthen our hand and make enforcement considerably better and tougher. Meanwhile, congress has even allocated funds for extra border guards, which the Bush people have still not fully implemented.

Well then that's good, because no bill will be passed, nor will any meaningful funding without a compromise. Glad your plan will work.

67 posted on 07/16/2006 1:12:03 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
"So we assume 20 million illegals are criminals too? "

Nope.
But lots of them are.
But its an analogy.
We don't stop trying to catch criminals just because we can't watch 100% of criminals.
Its not a "deport all 12 million" or "deport 0" option.
Get it?


"Well, since you are making them felons, I guess you are rights. "

Read above.

"You really have no idea what a threat terrorism is to this Nation, do you? "


You'd be surprised.
I am wiling to bet I know quite a bit more about about terrorism and terrisitsrist than you do.

"You are too wrapped up in deporting 20 million Mexicans, that terrorists can come later"

Wrong.
Again. Normal straw man's argument. The 2 are not mutually exclusive. More than that, they are intertwined. Easiest way for terrorists to enter this country without our government having any idea that they are here is through the open borders.
75 posted on 07/16/2006 1:49:30 PM PDT by Jameison
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