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Nope. You are confused. I am saying that illegals are taking jobs from American citizens, especially blacks and the lower skilled.

Well then it's you who is confused, since all I said was that most Americans don't believe that. Whether it's true or not, I've not seen any data. Your view appears to be in the minority.

Perhaps you will prove that illegals are not taking any jobs from Americans.

As I'm sure you are aware, when one makes a specific charge, it is not up to everyone else to prove him wrong, it is up to him to prove his charge correct. Again, I can't say one way or another, but I can say that most Americans don't believe that.

Let's just look at your statments agin shall we?

You cliam :

"Whether it's true or not, I've not seen any data."

And follow it up with:

"Your view appears to be in the minority."

You haven't seen any data, but you know my view is in the minority?
Where at?
Mexico?

"Again, I can't say one way or another, but I can say that most Americans don't believe that."

Again, "I can't say one way or another" and "but I can say that most Americans don't believe that" directly contradict each other.
Try and think more clearly before you reply again, will ya?

"As I'm sure you are aware, when one makes a specific charge, it is not up to everyone else to prove him wrong, it is up to him to prove his charge correct"

There is plenty of evience to support my position:

An overwhelming majority of seventy-seven percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just fifteen percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

Sixty percent of Americans favor imposing fines of tens of thousands of dollars on employers who hire illegal immigrants.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Eighty-one percent of Americans polled support strict criminal penalties on employers who, after repeatedly being cited, persist in knowingly hiring illegal aliens.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Eighty-four percent of Americans believe the most effective way to reduce illegal immigration is to cut off the employment incentive for coming here by instituting tough penalties for businesses that hire illegal immigrants. More than half think this would be "very effective," and another 32% say it would be "somewhat effective."
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Fifty-nine percent of black California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Sixty percent of California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Seventy-three percent of Americans favor imposing fines and criminal charges against employers who hire illegals.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

More than ninety percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed believe illegal immigration is a problem. Seventy percent rank it as a "very serious" or "serious" problem.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Eighty-six percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed say illegal immigration should have a "very high" or "high" priority for Congress and the Bush administration.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants if they only need to prove that they have been living in the U.S. for at least three years.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by seventy-eight percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Seventy-one percent support major penalties for employers who hire illegals.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Seventy-six percent of Americans polled are concerned that American workers can't afford to work for the same low wages as illegal aliens.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Sixty-three percent of Americans polled are concerned about illegal aliens taking away jobs from American workers.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Seventy-four percent of Americans polled favor providing major penalties for employers convicted of hiring illegal aliens and strongly enforcing it.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Eighty percent on Arizona voters favor penalizing businesses that hire illegal aliens.
KAET-TV and Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication poll, January 19-22, 2006