[Jameison]

"We are not going to "negotiate" like how Chamberlain "negotiated" with Hitler, and ended up handing the whole of Europe to Hitler resulting ina war that killed over 50 million. "

Chamberlain basically waved the white flag to Hitler by signing a very bad deal.
That was before the war in Europe, btw.
The US Senate is waving a white flag to Mexico passing a very bad bill. Bad agreements/bills leave countries paying the price for decades. Justbthink the 1986 immigration bill. We are still paying a heavy price for that stupidity.

"So it's not a war, but it is a war? So anytime anyone negotiates, it is tantamount to Chamberlain?"

Still not a war.
Its just a vote in congress over immigration.
But there is analogy to what comes when you sign a bad agreement for the sake of getting an agreement at all costs.
No agreement is far, far, far, far better than a bad agreement.
That is the analogy with Chamberlain.
Get it?

[MACVSOG68]

Chamberlain basically waved the white flag to Hitler by signing a very bad deal. That was before the war in Europe, btw.

Wasn't it you accusing me of straw men?

Still not a war. Its just a vote in congress over immigration. But there is analogy to what comes when you sign a bad agreement for the sake of getting an agreement at all costs. No agreement is far, far, far, far better than a bad agreement. That is the analogy with Chamberlain. Get it?

Yes, finally. Thanks to your brilliant "It's not a war", but's it's just like a war" straw men, the light came on. Similar to "Polls are worthless" and "Look at all these polls showing what I want". Let me guess that Critical Thinking was not your best class in school?