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To: MACVSOG68
"No they don't, but what you forget is that in war, business and politics, unless you are holding a completely winning hand (which Republicans are not)"

We do.
We control congress.
And we have the votes in The House.
We have basically succeeded in killing the evil Senate Bill already.
As I have pointed out over and over again, we already have the law do deal with illegal immigrants, so no new Senate Bill at all, is better better by far than the evil Senate Bil.
Another thing this is not a war.

"you try for a win-win through negotiation. "


Is that what you call the evil piece of ;legislation called The Senate Immigration Bill?
Its a lose, lose for Americans.
We are not going to "negotiate" like how Chamberlain "negotiated" with Hitler, and ended up handing the whole of Europe to Hitler resulting ina war that killed over 50 million.


"Since all the polls show that a majority of Americans want a comprehensive plan"

They don't.


"it is clearly in the Democrats' interest that no bill make it before election time"

Democrat can do what they like.
Its by following such dumb ass policies that they have lost every national elections for 6 years, and lost control of the House (which is more representative of what voters think than Senate) since 1994.



"That would show the Republicans actually doing something. Perish that thought."

It will show Republicans are stopping the evil Senate Bill, and not doing a Neville Chamberlain by surrendering to blackmail from Mexico and selling our national heritage to a bunch of Mexican illegals that wave American flags upside down and yell "gringo go home" chants.
118 posted on 07/18/2006 8:43:49 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
Another thing this is not a war.

We are not going to "negotiate" like how Chamberlain "negotiated" with Hitler, and ended up handing the whole of Europe to Hitler resulting ina war that killed over 50 million.

So it's not a war, but it is a war? So anytime anyone negotiates, it is tantamount to Chamberlain?

As I have pointed out over and over again, we already have the law do deal with illegal immigrants, so no new Senate Bill at all, is better better by far than the evil Senate Bil.

Yep, so then there really was no reason for the House bill, since we already have effective laws. Good one.

They don't.

Oops, I forgot. The questions dealing with that are to be eliminated. Only the questions that pertain to strong borders and enforcement are to be kept in. I keep forgetting the ground rules for intellectual honesty...

Democrat can do what they like. Its by following such dumb ass policies that they have lost every national elections for 6 years, and lost control of the House (which is more representative of what voters think than Senate) since 1994. Well, if you are correct, we should gain no less than 75 more House seats, and up our Senate seats to around 70.

It will show Republicans are stopping the evil Senate Bill, and not doing a Neville Chamberlain by surrendering to blackmail from Mexico and selling our national heritage to a bunch of Mexican illegals that wave American flags upside down and yell "gringo go home" chants.

Yep, we Republicans showed them alright.

119 posted on 07/18/2006 8:56:13 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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