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My Dog was Savagely Attacked by Two Pitbulls
7/3/2006 | GVnana

Posted on 07/03/2006 7:10:02 PM PDT by GVnana

My sweet little cocker spaniel dog was nearly killed by two pitbulls who jumped a fence to get to her. She crossed a nearby driveway and they got her.

By the time my neighbors got the dogs off, (within seconds) the pits had grounded my dog, tore out her left eye, dislocated her left leg, and left ten gaping wounds in her body. She couldn't move or even howl in pain. That's how I found her.

My dog weighs 40 pounds. She's large for her breed. She's AKC registered and pedigreed. She was a very beautiful dog.

This happened 10 days ago and I'm still stunned at the viciousness of the attack. I don't know if a human child would have survived what those animals did.

I have since learned that homeowner's insurance will not cover pitbulls.

I'm posting this as a warning and also as an invitation to comment.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bsl; doggieping; dogofpeace; maul; rdo; responsibility; unrestrained; viciouspitbulls
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To: solosmoke

Somewhere back 200 or so posts ago I've given my opinion on everything you've had to say....already.


361 posted on 07/09/2006 5:58:58 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: kanawa
You don;t read vey carefully (or pwrhaps I was not clear). Let's clarify.

Someone should not have to fear that if there dog goes running fown the street without a leash, gets out of their control for an instance, that they should have to worry about a pitbull mauling it.

As for my being uninformed on the issue, that really has nothing to do with making law. And that is what ultimately counts. Uniforned yet able to convince a city council t ban pitbulls is the argument that will win the day.

And before you misread that to mean that I agree with you that I am uninformed on this issue, that is not view.

By the way, did you see the story from yesterday of the toddler now undergoing extensive facial reconstruction because the family pitbull "that had been gentle for eight years" decided it all of a sudden did not like the child.

I repeat. All pitbulls in neighborhoods should be bnanned. Any pitbull found off their leash and off the owners property should be confiscated and immedicately put down (killed).

362 posted on 07/09/2006 9:59:31 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: GVnana

I was telling a friend about your tragedy, and without hesitation, the response was, they'd toss some "tainted" steaks to the monsters.

Well, actually that was the second response. The first involved a gun.


363 posted on 07/09/2006 10:24:09 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: GVnana

I have never eaten a dog, but if two pitbulls attacked my pups, that might change.

For that matter, I've never engaged in cannibalism, but if two pitbulls attacked my pups...


364 posted on 07/09/2006 10:27:43 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Ditter
I'd sue the dogs owners, if you can find them, for vet bills and your and your dogs pain and suffering.

Unlikely that you would get much; responsible middle class dog owners with assets choose breeds other than pit bulls. The typical pit bull owner is trailer trash with an inferiority complex that he tries to salve with a fighting dog.
365 posted on 07/09/2006 10:29:23 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: doodlelady
I've had a number of people tell me they'd just shoot the dogs. I've even had people volunteer to do the job.

Personally, I think a shooting is more humane than poisoning.

366 posted on 07/09/2006 10:34:15 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Donald Meaker
Rather like the argument against the death penalty: We interview 300 people on death row, and none of them were deterred by the death penalty.

The death penalty for felons, as for pit bulls, is not a "deterrant". Rather, it is an absolutely foolproof way to ensure that problem breeds are removed from the gene pool and rendered permanently inactive.
367 posted on 07/09/2006 10:44:50 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: GVnana
Personally, I think a shooting is more humane than poisoning. You're probably right. But poisoning is less messy. And they'd enjoy the steak.
368 posted on 07/09/2006 11:05:41 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: BJungNan
Someone should not have to fear that if there dog goes running fown the street without a leash, gets out of their control for an instance, that they should have to worry about a pitbull mauling it.

But I should have to worry about that loose dog ripping a piece out of granddaughter's face. Try again.

Still no opinion on the Virginia law?

I did see some stories yesterday but none that completely fit your description.
There was a Santa Barbara incident where....

"...animal control officer Jeff Deming said jealousy probably caused the attack.

"Whenever something new is introduced in a dog's life, whether it be another dog, a new resident or a child, the dog may feel threatened, jealousy, or a need to establish its order in the family pack," he said."

Stories like that one are far too common and are not breed specific.

369 posted on 07/09/2006 12:13:19 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: All

A crazy number of dog bites happen to children by dogs that are unaltered, chained, or running loose, regardless of the breed. The vast majority of dog attacks are from unneutered male dogs. This does not take into account the breed.
These facts have undeniable statistics. You are three times more likely to be attacked by an intact male dog. You are NOT three times more likely, or even one percent more likely to get bitten by a pit bull over any other breed. You ARE, however, more likely to be bitten by a cocker spaniel, lab, or dalmation. These are the facts.

So when I see someone who doesn't understand how their precious dog is a nuisance running wild through the neighborhood, I get mad. I cannot tell you how many times I have been bitten. I seriously cannot count the number of times. Many of them are from working with animals, but quite a few are also from stray dogs, none of which were pit bulls.

I have encountered many stray pits, and even rehomed one through the network I am with because I didn't want to see it go back to the place it was from (a yard full of pits with a four foot fence). It is now a loved family dog, neutered, healthy, and always inside. It might have tasted some tainted meat and never had the chance to become a loved family pet. Thank God no one in my neighborhood is that stupid.

I take every stray dog as a possible threat because if I only worried about pit bulls I might be scarred for life right now. Just like in Canada recently when a young boy was killed by a Husky. The pit bull ban could not help this situation, as there were no leash laws or muzzle laws to keep the Husky dog contained, only pit bull laws. This child is DEAD now because they could not find the right balance for lawmakers to agree on.


370 posted on 07/09/2006 2:19:40 PM PDT by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke
The unintended silver lining to these attempts at BSL has been to create a growing legion of
responsible owners of all breeds that are demanding and will continue to demand
responsible dog ownership by owners of all breeds.

Anyone who thinks it's acceptable for their dog to be out of control
and roaming the neighborhood is in for a big surprise.

371 posted on 07/09/2006 2:49:05 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: BJungNan
Update on Santa Barbara incident...

"The child's parents told authorities they placed the baby on the floor with the "Border Collie-Pit Bull" mix to introduce the child to the dog for the first time."

Must of been the "pit bull" part that did the attack 'cause we all know a Border Collie is incapable of such an action.

A look at the articles shows some calling the dog a pit bull, none of them calling the dog a Border Collie.
Some of articles calling the dog a "pit bull mix", none of them calling it a Border Collie mix.
And one article calling it a "Border Collie-Pit bull" mix.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why the type of dog is reported in this manner?

372 posted on 07/09/2006 3:27:50 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

That was the story.

Serious consideration should be given to pressing charges against the parent for allowing the child near the dog. The dog should be killed if it has not already been killed.

All owners of pitbulls in residential neighborhoods should be forced to get rid of their dogs or move. Pitbulls should not be allowed in residential neighborhoods.


373 posted on 07/09/2006 6:29:13 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: kanawa
Still no opinion on the Virginia law?

My cursory reading of that law is that it is far too lenient. It allows for the keeping of a dangerous dog in residential neighborhoods.

It is not a good law. It changes nothing. It makes the politician feel good thinking they have addressed the issue - been tough on it - when in practicle terms it changes nothing.

It is an enforcement nightmere that avoids the issue. Should dangerous dogs be allowed in residential neighborhoods? The answer is no. The law only need to defined a dangerour breed and then say they are banned in any areas zoned residential.

374 posted on 07/09/2006 6:35:42 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
Do a 'Google' search. If we were to follow your warped biased way of thinking there wouldn't be any dogs kept as pets as every single breed has been known to be aggressive at some time or other. Cocker Spaniels and even Yorkies are known to have killed.

[snip]

There is a reasonably strong literature showing that many canine behaviors, including aggression, have a genetic basis. High levels of idiopathic aggression have been found in COCKER SPANIELS, English Springer Spaniels and Bernese Mountain Dogs, and in the latter this trait was traced back to two sires. The former breeds top lists of dogs presented to a sample of American behavior clinics for aggression. In the case of COCKER SPANIELS, there may be no neurological pathology (often called Cocker, or Springer, Spaniel Rage) so much as dominance aggression. A study found an association between COCKER SPANIELS temperament and owner personality, which indicates that some owners bring out the worst in the genetic potential of their dogs, quite unintentionally. Nobody desires aggressive COCKER SPANIELS, but several breeds have been produced to function as guard dogs, and in them a level of aggression towards strangers is sometimes seen as desirable

[snip]

http://www.dapbt.org/collier.htm
375 posted on 07/09/2006 6:54:39 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (LIGHT A PRAYER CANDLE FOR THE TROOPS: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm)
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To: BJungNan
It allows for the keeping of a dangerous dog in residential neighborhoods.

Are you satisfied with its definition of a dangerous dog?

376 posted on 07/09/2006 9:08:34 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa
Are you satisfied with its definition of a dangerous dog?

If I read it correctly, no, I am not happy with the definition. Correct me if I am wrong, but the definition seems to be a dog that has already bitten someone or another animal (and animal that was not owned by the same owner).

If that is the defintion, then it does nothing to prevent the problem that exists with pitbulls in residential neighborhoods. It only deals with the problem after the fact - after a mauling. That is wholly unacceptable.

As I have often stated, no pitbull should be in a residential neighborhood under any circumstances.

377 posted on 07/09/2006 10:43:56 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: GVnana
What if your dog had been attacked by two labs? Would you be posting here?

What is it with people that they can not see the obivous. A lab is not a pitbull. Why would they even bring up the comparison. It is sickening that people so bent on their postion that they have to state the obvious is not obvious.

378 posted on 07/09/2006 10:46:28 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: solosmoke
You have every right to disagree with my views. That is what makes this country great. But just so you know, my dogs have never been in trouble like that. Never any close calls with cars, fights with other dogs, guarding, nothing. Everyone has their own way of "training" their dogs to be good citizens, but some are better at it. It couldn't hurt for you to read up on dog training and change your situation. It might end up saving your dog's life, and you never know. Cocker spaniels are in the top two for bites, not because the breed itself is bad, but for whatever reason, they're in that spot. You could also end up saving a child from a pretty nasty bite as well.

You are not serious when you compare a cocker spainiel to a pitbull are you. Tell me that was a spoof post. My sides are aching from laughing so hard and I would hate to think the laugh you gave me was not intentional.

379 posted on 07/09/2006 10:49:47 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
If that is the defintion, then it does nothing to prevent the problem that exists with pitbulls in residential neighborhoods

What is the problem that responsible owners of these dogs and their well cared for dogs are being accused of?

380 posted on 07/10/2006 5:21:36 AM PDT by kanawa
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