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Man's Comment On Check Could Land Him In Jail
KIRO 7 TV ^
| Jun. 27, 2006
| Associated Press
Posted on 06/27/2006 11:50:03 AM PDT by beezdotcom
BERKLEY, Mich. -- The parking fine was $10. But the comment Robert Militzer added to the check could land him in jail for 30 days.
The computer programmer from Allen Park got the ticket May 29. When Militzer wrote the check to Berkley District Court, he scribbled on the memo line, "BULL (expletive) MONEY GRAB."
That got Militzer an in-person court appearance -- on a contempt of court charge. He's scheduled to go before a judge Wednesday, accompanied by an American Civil Liberties Union attorney who will argue Militzer's remark is protected by the First Amendment.
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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aclulist; billofrights; blackrobedthugs; constitutionlist; firstamendment; freespeech; govwatch; judicialactivism; judiciary; libertarians; pettytyrants
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To: beezdotcom
Well, it's nice to see the ACLU doing something good for a change.....
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posted on
06/27/2006 11:58:22 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Back in the good old United States, using profane or obscene language in public got you jail time. It still can in VA Beach, VA
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posted on
06/27/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
To: beezdotcom
Was the check written to "The city of ....." or was it written to "Clerk of courts for .....".
If it's to the city he's off scott free, if it's to the clerk of courts he'd better start praying the ACLU guy/gal knows what the hell he/she is doing with respect to arguing first amendment rights cases.
Mind you I think what he did was great and that this is a BS (to use his words) charge in the first place.
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posted on
06/27/2006 11:59:12 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: beezdotcom
I've used the expression "legal theft" in the memo line.
That check is my property (only the funds that it transfers do they take possession of) and to be returned to me for my records after it is cashed. I'd think we could write whatever we want (except for obscenities, perhaps, which could be construed as harassing public workers).
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posted on
06/27/2006 11:59:22 AM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
To: Mr. Mojo
Yep.
Also known as "petty tyrants."
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:01:08 PM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
To: dfwgator
I wonder if they would have gone after him had he not used the S-Bomb.
I was wondering the same thing. I'm inclined to think 'yes', because the extra effort involved in pressing additional charges shows motivation well beyond the usual indignation over use of a curse word - especially when not proffered IN court. I think if he had written "Abuse of Judicial Power" or "Totally Bogus and Fraudulent Money Grab", he would have gotten a similar reaction.
To: patton
hah! i was thinking the same thing!
i have actually used that on memo
lines before :D
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:01:20 PM PDT
by
leda
(Life is always what you make it!)
To: beezdotcom
I worked Law Enforcement for a lot of years. I was never a big ticket writer, but it is part of the job. Many a time the person on the receiving end would make a smart ass comment or mumble curses. I was always taught to let it go. They are venting anger. Usually they are angry at themselves for making a mistake. Some are angry because they got caught. AS long as they are not creating a scene, so what. The court could have cashed the check and the whole thing would have disappeared. The check writer knows why he got the ticket. He was just venting. In a very peaceful way I might add. Some judges are too thin skinned for the job. I'd say this judge is a piece of sh@t. Wanna bring me judgy boy?
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:01:29 PM PDT
by
MPJackal
("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
To: beezdotcom
Let's see: The New York Times can divulge and publish details of secret activities designed to track down terrorists and it's "Freedom of Speech". A citizen expresses his feelings about the operations of a branch of government and it's "Contempt of Court". Somehow I don't believe that is what the Framers of the Constitution intended.
To: beezdotcom
I used the phrase, "Village Gestapo", once.
To: Perdogg
payment is an admission of guilt.
I don't think so - if you sign a ticket and pay it, it is probably an admission. However, if you don't sign it, judgement is rendered, and a fine has been levied, payment is merely an acknowledgement that the court has been vested with the power to collect fines. Saying otherwise would be like saying that "submitting to incarceration is an admission of guilt."
To: CindyDawg
If he had put speeding, could that have been used as an admission of guilt?" Seems that paying the fine is tantamount to an admission of guilt (yes not technically, but still).
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:05:16 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
(At least drunken sailors spend their own money, Congress doesn't.)
To: beezdotcom
How dare he offend the rulers? He better learn his place in society. His job is to pay taxes, follow all laws that the rulers decide to enforce when they decide to enforce them and do as he is told while he recites 'yes masters' with out ever looking at them. Hopefully, the judge will explain all this to him before he collects his additional fine.
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:05:25 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: beezdotcom
BERKLEY, Mich. Must move there..crime must be so non-existent there that they have to really find it on check memos..
To: Perdogg
That's not what I was told. The judge said I could plead guilty or not or something else. I forget what it was called but it meant "just take the money. I can't afford to go to court". You can write your side of the story on the back, without getting in trouble though, if you keep it clean. It doesn't change things but it makes you feel better:')
To: beezdotcom
I can't believe I am agreeing with the ACLU on this one.
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:07:30 PM PDT
by
sportutegrl
(People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
To: GoBucks2002
Made mine out as payable to "Infernal Revenue".
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:08:29 PM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: MPJackal
Some judges are too thin skinned for the job. I'd say this judge is a piece of sh@t. Actually, the really thin skinned was the clerk who presented it to the Judge. The clerk could have just let it pass, but did not. The Judge was then forced to do something. And yes, he could have let it pass as well.
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:08:46 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
(At least drunken sailors spend their own money, Congress doesn't.)
To: The Sons of Liberty
Freedom of Speech is the liberty we have to VOICE our greviences to or about our government with out any recourse.
Freedom of the Press is the liberty we have to PRINT or WRITE the same...
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posted on
06/27/2006 12:09:09 PM PDT
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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