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Book Report: Variable Star, the Controversial New "Heinlein" Novel
The Interocitor ^ | Robert A. Heinlein

Posted on 06/23/2006 10:43:25 PM PDT by narses

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1 posted on 06/23/2006 10:43:27 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

One book I won't be reading.


2 posted on 06/23/2006 10:47:50 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: narses

Actually, this was one of the books that Heinlein deliberately chose *not* to write, IIRC. See the postscript to _Revolt In 2100_, "Concerning Stories Never Written."

Variable Star was *never* supposed to see the light of day.


3 posted on 06/23/2006 10:59:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dallas59

Nor I. Too much respect for medically-retired Naval officer Heinlein.

Spider Robinson, you ignorant slut.


4 posted on 06/23/2006 11:00:34 PM PDT by dsc
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To: narses

thanks for posting this review.


5 posted on 06/23/2006 11:00:53 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Spktyr

interesting tidbit.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 11:01:32 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Dallas59
At that time there were probably less than a hundred that rabid, and by definition they were so profoundly stupid or deranged as to be barely functional. It was always clear their primitive atrocity had succeeded so spectacularly only by the most evil luck.

I hope that the Heinlein estate or the ownwer of the Heinlein literary name has the good sense to fire this loser and either start from scratch or do some judicious editing.

I have read every available thing Heinlein ever wrote, but i won't be reading that abortion.

Hard to believe something that plain could be bungled that badly.

I specially like this part:
"... there were probably less than a hundred [muslims] that rabid, and by definition they were so profoundly stupid ..."

That atrocious fiction could not have been more egregiously treasonous than if it had been written or paid for directly by Saudi Arabia!

7 posted on 06/23/2006 11:02:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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It's like making a sequel to Gone With The Wind starring Cindy Sheehan as an older Scarlet and Micheal Douglas as Rhett. Yuck.
8 posted on 06/23/2006 11:06:55 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: narses

I'll pass, I've read all of Heinlein's books several times. By his own standard this is not one of his books.


9 posted on 06/23/2006 11:07:36 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: narses
Spider Robinson is a limited talent who's been foisting his gawdawful Callahan's Bar stories on the world for decades because he can't come up with anything else. He's a minor writer at best, and it's too bad someone like Jerry Pournelle or Larry Niven or Gregory Benford wasn't given this assignment, if indeed it needed to be written, anyway, which I don't think it did. Those other writers have too much going on in their own careers to need to attach themselves to Heinlein's name for a few bucks.

That the book "reads" like Heinlein makes my point: A writer with a distinct, individual style wouldn't be spending his time mimicking someone else.

10 posted on 06/23/2006 11:10:54 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: King Prout

One of Heinlein's comments on the rise of Nehemiah Scudder, from the same post script.

"The first of these unwritten stories, 'The Sound Of His Wings', starts shortly before 'Logic Of Empire' and continues for several years beyonf the ending of 'Logic'; it would have recounted the early life, rise as a television evangelist, and subsequent political career of the Reverend Nehemiah Scudder, the "First Prophet," President of the United States, and destroyer of its Constitution, founder of the Theocracy."


Elsewhere in the series, he explains why this story will remain unwritten (but it's evidently been plotted out at the time of writing) forever. This is probably the passage that Robinson drew his source material from.

The problem is that he completely ignores something from three paragraphs earlier!

"This present Volume Three starts about seventy-five years later than the end of the last story in Volume Two - and a great amount of "Future History" has taken place between the two volumes [Volume 2 was 'Green Hills Of Earth', Volume 3 is 'Revolt in 2100' - edit mine]. 'Green Hills' ended with [pay attention now -] the United States a leading power in a systemwide imperialism embracing all the habitable planets."

Scudder's rise and the end of interplanetary flight came WELL after what Robinson proposes. Robinson broke canon.


11 posted on 06/23/2006 11:19:08 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Great post! Heinlein was the Dean of science fiction, period. (BTW, Heinlein died on May 8th, 1988 (18 years ago, not 20.) For those freeper fans of RAH who may have missed it, here is a good Heinlein thread from a couple of years ago.
12 posted on 06/23/2006 11:20:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Great reference. If Heinlein "abandoned it", hre did so because he didn't like it. I hate this recent practice of resurrecting dead novelists anyway. Robert Ludlum, Lawrence Sanders, and a host of other long-deceased writers seem to have left stockpiles of "manuscripts" for no-name authors to "put the finishing touches on".


13 posted on 06/23/2006 11:27:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I love "Glory Road." When I first heard of the recent movie of the same name, I suffered a moment of panic-stricken nausea at the prospect of some sodomitic Hollyweird pudknocker trying to turn it into a movie.

Thank God that wasn't the case.


14 posted on 06/23/2006 11:59:12 PM PDT by dsc
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Robert Ludlum, Lawrence Sanders, and a host of other long-deceased writers seem to have left stockpiles of "manuscripts" for no-name authors to "put the finishing touches on".

Now I understand why C. S. Lewis left orders that his papers be burned upon his death.

15 posted on 06/24/2006 12:04:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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They did a fairly good job with Puppet Masters - but it got crushed by the premiere of Stargate at the box office.


16 posted on 06/24/2006 12:08:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: narses

Time Travellers Strictly Hack Garbage.


17 posted on 06/24/2006 12:13:27 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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I can imagine what Heinlein would say about the current crop on the left, and it wouldn't be pretty.


18 posted on 06/24/2006 12:15:03 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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I just went back and reread the entire postscript - and I missed something. This further damns Robinson's idea.

"I imagined Nehemiah Scudder as a backwoods evangelist who combined some of the features of John Calvin, Savonarola, Judge Rutherford and Huey Long. His influence was not national until after the death of Mrs. Rachel Biggs, an early convert who had the single virtue of being the widow of an extremely wealthy man who shared none of her religious myopia - she left Brother Scudder several millions of dollars with which to establish a television station. Shortly thereafter he teamed up with an ex-Senator from his home state; they placed their affairs in the hands of a major advertising agency and were on their way to fame and fortune. Presently they needed stormtroopers; they revived the Ku Klux Klan in everything but the name - sheets, passwords, grips and all. It was a 'good gimmick' once and it still served. Blood at the polls and blood in the streets, but Scudder won the election. The next election was never held."

Game, set, match, I should think.


19 posted on 06/24/2006 12:21:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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FYI, Heinlein was a Reagan Democrat and had nothing but contempt for Jimmah, IIRC.


20 posted on 06/24/2006 12:22:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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