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2006 WORLD CUP - Day 14 Thread - U.S. needs win in group E finale
MLSnet.com ^ | 6-22-06 | MLSnet.com

Posted on 06/21/2006 10:33:27 PM PDT by soccer_maniac

The U.S. national team goes into Thursday's Group E finale against Ghana (9:55 a.m. ET, ESPN) knowing that it must come up with a win to have any chance of moving to the Round of 16.

All four teams in Group E, including the USA, still have a chance to advance. The U.S. must beat a tough Ghana side to have any chance of moving to the knockout phase. Should Bruce Arena's team be able to secure three points against the Africans, whom they meet at 9:55 a.m. ET on ESPN, they will need Italy to beat the Czech Republic in a simultaneous match, which can be seen live on ESPN2. The U.S. is not mathematically eliminated with a Czech draw or win, but will need a big victory over Ghana to avoid being eliminated on goal difference.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 2006; czechrepublic; donovan; fifa; football; futbol; germany; ghana; italy; notfootball; soccer; usa; usteam; wm; worldcup
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To: Eurotwit

We are not the worst this time


# Team PL PTS Dif GF
32 Serbia/Mont 3 0 -8 2
31 Costa Rica 3 0 -6 3
30 Togo 2 0 -3 1
29 Japan 3 1 -5 2
28 TnT 3 1 -4 0
26 USA 3 1 -4 2
26 Iran 3 1 -4 2
25 S/Arabia 2 1 -4 2
24 Tunisia 2 1 -2 3

CONCACAF's first round: 1 win, 3 draws, 8 losses; scored 9 goals, conceded 22 goals -- only win against #26 Iran


721 posted on 06/22/2006 2:38:38 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Fine employers $100,000 for every illegal employee they hire-> millions of illegals will self-deport)
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To: Eurotwit

Not a good tournament for the Slavs, Ukraine is the last hope:

Poland, Czech Republic, Serbia, Croatia all out.


722 posted on 06/22/2006 2:39:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Eurotwit

Already on Wikipedia :-)

Poll's third game of the tournament saw Croatia take on Australia. The game ended 2-2, putting Australia through to the next round, but the story was far more than that. Poll sent off three players, including Dario Šimiæ, Brett Emerton, and Josip Šimuniæ. In Šimuniæ's case, Poll almost certainly made history, booking him three times. Having forgotten to send him off after his second yellow card, he did finally show him a red card in the second-half added time period.[1].

It remains to be seen whether Poll has jeopardised his chances of refeering again in this or any World

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Poll


723 posted on 06/22/2006 2:39:38 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

The world cup of bad refs. That may be how this is remembered. So far we've had at least 4 badly refed games.


724 posted on 06/22/2006 2:41:48 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: jjbrouwer

Newsweek on the US loss

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13282683/site/newsweek/


725 posted on 06/22/2006 2:41:59 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Fine employers $100,000 for every illegal employee they hire-> millions of illegals will self-deport)
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To: Eurotwit

I fail to understand how anyone can continue to attack Ronaldo when there is a much more deserving target out on the pitch: The Referees.

I understand that the Referees have a tough job and I sure wouldn't want it, but I can count to two.

There should be a special contest for the most horrible referee in WC history. I nominate the ref who in 1982 disallowed a goal by France against Kuwait after a sheik came on the field.

Then there was the referee immortalized by Stoichkov of Bulgaria (sp?) after they lost in 1994: "God was on our side, but the referee was French!"


726 posted on 06/22/2006 2:42:14 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: onja
So far we've had at least 4 badly refed games.

Must be using NBA refs.

727 posted on 06/22/2006 2:43:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: onja

They joked just now on the Norwegian post game show, that today we have seen one blind ref (Merk), and one who cannot count (Poll).


728 posted on 06/22/2006 2:43:40 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: dfwgator

Sorry Gator, but Dallas has only themselves to blame for losing that series. The Refs screwed the Mavs, true, but you had Miami down in Game Three and the Mavs admitted they let up in the 4th quarter. Had they won Game Three it was all over.

That call at the end of OT in Game Five that put Wade on the line was an atrocity, I'll give you that.


729 posted on 06/22/2006 2:45:20 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

I say Miami deserved the series, Dallas had their chances but they blew it, but still, it doesn't help the NBA to have the kind of inconsistency in how they call games.


730 posted on 06/22/2006 2:46:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: You Dirty Rats

I would have liked to see the one episode with the sheik. LOL.

As for the refs, well it is a tough job.

But, don't award a penalty unless you are absolutely sure. The Ghana penalty was a disgrace, and PingPong should have been booked. And, for goodness sake, learn how to count into single digits :-)


731 posted on 06/22/2006 2:49:07 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

Team USA is used to seeing dubious PKs called against them, but usually it is in a qualifier in Central America with a third-rate ref scared for his life.

Merk blew it.


732 posted on 06/22/2006 2:51:16 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

The US needs some people that can score a goal....

jeez.


733 posted on 06/22/2006 3:11:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: soccer_maniac; All
NUREMBURG, Germany (Reuters) - U.S. captain Claudio Reyna has called time on his international career after their World Cup exit on Thursday and could soon be followed by striker Brian McBride and maybe even coach Bruce Arena.

"I'm probably done," Reyna told reporters after his team lost 2-1 to Ghana in their final Group E match. "That's it."

734 posted on 06/22/2006 3:32:54 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Eurotwit
My tag line is facetious. As you know, Bruce is one of my good friends. I have told him that many times.

Heck, Bruce has been instrumental in almost every job I have ever had in soccer. You see, I am an old man and have experience on my side.

He got me a nice job working with the South African Team where we made it to the show the last time.

I am not an instrumental coach, ie: hands on. I can not display how to do it with this body. I am sort of a head case and body coach now. It is my job to judge players on how to get peak performance and to judge when they will be there. Yes, they have a coach for that.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Keep this quiet and I can't really say anything. But I predicted the Donovan fiasco. I have never been a fan of pretty boy.

I was going to Germany for this trip but personal health problems in the family stood in the way. But I will say this. Donovan was going to play no matter what I said.

I said this in an earlier post but will give a short repeat that I didn't like the way Ben Olsen got into the game. On this I will be blunt. I think he sould have started all 3 games. Yes, completely biased here.

Coach Bill

735 posted on 06/22/2006 3:49:21 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Who wants a coach called Bruce?)
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To: AGreatPer

Olson has one great asset. He takes the ball forward. God, what a comcept.


736 posted on 06/22/2006 3:54:33 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Who wants a coach called Bruce?)
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To: You Dirty Rats
OK, OK, I will shut up. But as a head case coach this game will take me about 3 more hours to download in the brain.

My analysis will be up tomorrow after I sleep on it.

737 posted on 06/22/2006 3:59:16 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Who wants a coach called Bruce?)
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To: AGreatPer

Must say, that strike from Dempsey was pure class. Extremely powerful, keeper didn't even try.


738 posted on 06/22/2006 4:04:41 PM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: soccer_maniac

This is the way I would have seated the teams for the "knockout" rounds. They were the following way:

1) Points
2) Finish in group (first tie breaker)
3) Goal differential (second tie breaker)
4) Goals scored (third tie breaker)

This way Brazil would have played Argentina in the semis while Germany would have played Portugal. This would make every game meaningful.

Group A
2 Germany 15 Australia
7 Netherlands 10 Ghana

3 Portugal 14 Korea
6 England 11 Sweden


Group B
1 Brazil 16 Ukraine
8 Ecuador 9 Spain

4 Argentina 13 Mexico
5 Italy 12 Switzerland


739 posted on 06/22/2006 5:02:01 PM PDT by Perdogg
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740 posted on 06/22/2006 6:07:34 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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