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DA's statements, record at odds (DukeLax)
News & Observer ^ | June 15, 2006 | Joseph Neff

Posted on 06/15/2006 2:22:31 AM PDT by abb

In the early days of the Duke lacrosse rape case, Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong's public statements appear to have contradicted certain facts in his own files.

After an escort service dancer said three men raped her at a lacrosse party, Nifong talked frequently with national and local reporters -- 50 to 70 interviews consuming 40 hours of his time, Nifong estimated. Nifong then went quiet in early April, refusing most interview requests.

A comparison of his words with documents that Nifong gave defense lawyers show that Nifong made what appear to be misstatements about condom use, a purported struggle and a 911 call made by a second dancer, among other things.

Nifong said the assailants might have used condoms; the accuser told an emergency-room nurse none were used, according to a defense filing. Nifong described a violent attack in which the accuser was choked and struggled to breathe; the accuser told a nurse she wasn't choked, the filing said.

Defense lawyers have filed some of the documents in court and characterized others, such as the medical exam, in affidavits.

Nifong declined through an assistant to answer questions Wednesday.

"Either he knew what the facts were and misstated them, or he was making them up," said James Coleman, a Duke law professor who has publicly requested that Nifong remove himself from the case. "Whether he acted knowing they were false, or if he was reckless, it doesn't matter in the long run. This is the kind of stuff that causes the public to lose confidence in the justice system."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: dirtyrats; duke; dukelax; durham; durhamdirtbag; lacrosse; lyingliars; nifong
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To: RecallMoran
but the real jist of the story is that he used sketchy information that did not include any exculpatory evidence to get a flimsy grand jury indictment of these players......forever sealing their fate because of his crooked lies.......

and btw....I thought a grand jury was supposed to help a DA figure out if a case needed to be pursued....how can that be done if the DA just feeds trash to the jury....they got a slanted and misleading interpretation....

181 posted on 06/16/2006 1:14:29 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: abb
"Actually, I think our commentary on FR is better"

of course it is...always has been.....and, having been to many a board, FR is by far the best there is on most subjects....not only that, its much easier to read and post here.....but we all know that...that's why we donate....

182 posted on 06/16/2006 1:18:57 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I wonder if drug testing was even offered to the AV?.....and, is it common and routine to do such testing on alledged rape victims?....

can a drug screen be done alone, without also testing for other things, like opiates, or bennies, etc....it seems AFAIK when you get a drug test back, it includes EVERYTHING.....

perhaps the AV refused drug testing or alcohol testing for fear of finding out she was also positive for coccaine or marijuana...etc...

183 posted on 06/16/2006 1:25:17 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Law is not justice but process
"I do not think this case would have gotten the national news coverage it has gotten."

let's all be honest....no one wants a poor or sickly or uneducated or even trashy or a drug abuser or an alcoholic person to be attacked by seemingly rich and powerful people and get away with it.....its human nature to want the "little " guy...in this case the AV...to win out in the end....I am always for the little guy....

THAT's why this got so much attention...that, and the racial angle...it just got the MSM or drive-by media ( DBM ) all excited....

too bad the reality of the case is that the Democratic DA is a crook and incompetant and the AV is just a stripper with a drug and alcohol problem,not to mention a liar of dubious morals....

184 posted on 06/16/2006 1:32:50 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Fido969

good for you.....I know all that with your ex and the kids was exhausting, but it is so refreshing to see someone put their kids first even if its terribly difficult....your kids will forever remember and thank you for it.....


185 posted on 06/16/2006 1:41:34 AM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: All

If you didn't catch it last night, TUCKER CARLSON said that all the networks have directed their people to NOT use the AV's name.

He said he did agree with that, that he sees no basis for that, but that all the Networks have directed their employees
likewise.


186 posted on 06/16/2006 1:57:58 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: ltc8k6

The one about the defense lawyers not wanting to take him on convinced me of what a total idiot he is. Like I said before, if this ever gets to a courtroom with him there, he will come face to face with his worst nightmare. Joe Cheshire. I actually laughed out loud when I first read that statement.


187 posted on 06/16/2006 3:07:47 AM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: JLS

I like it.


188 posted on 06/16/2006 3:53:18 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Here's the motion filed yesterday...

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/20060615_duke2.pdf


189 posted on 06/16/2006 4:51:04 AM PDT by abb (If it Ain't Posted on FreeRepublic, it Ain't News)
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To: abb

More...

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/20060615_duke1.pdf


190 posted on 06/16/2006 4:53:55 AM PDT by abb (If it Ain't Posted on FreeRepublic, it Ain't News)
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To: abb

Thank you for the posts.

Lil Kimmy is not going to like this one.

"She also claimed ... --the woman she left with--had pushed her out of her car and onto the street."


More reading to do ...


191 posted on 06/16/2006 5:27:32 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: abb

Many thanks-I was waiting for it.


192 posted on 06/16/2006 5:29:44 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; abb

Quick google search, Mariecia Smith appears to be the social worker.


193 posted on 06/16/2006 5:51:35 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief
"She also claimed ... --the woman she left with--had pushed her out of her car and onto the street."

OMG!!!

I guess Alan Colmes will just say the defense is only releasing things that help the defense again tonight.

194 posted on 06/16/2006 5:51:58 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: abb
Hee Hee.. It contains a funny typo...

"North Carolina Statue Bureau of Investigation"...

They could change the name to North Carolina Bureau of Statue Investigation... or maybe it's a hint that they could build a statue of Nifong in North Carolina for his excellent investigation..

Poor Bradley, probably severely bruised from the smack down of signing Cheshire's name to this faulty document.. ;)

195 posted on 06/16/2006 6:12:02 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: abb; Dukie07
We've batted around whether Duke students can vote in the November elections. Here is some definitive info.

All About Voting: What Duke Students Need to Know

Hat tip: John in Carolina

With his post: I'm supporting Louis Cheek for Durham District Attorney
196 posted on 06/16/2006 6:18:23 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: cherry
I wonder if drug testing was even offered to the AV?.....and, is it common and routine to do such testing on alledged rape victims?....

Tox screens are so routine that there is a box on the forms to check if Mangum had one. She declined as is her right in NC and as one would expect someone on probation who was on alcohol and drugs to do.
197 posted on 06/16/2006 6:45:55 AM PDT by JLS
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To: pepperhead; Protect the Bill of Rights; abb

More from Himan's notes:


4/3/06 1815hrs - Went to (redacted) in reference to contacting Kim Pittman. I left my business card to contact me. (LOL, I see she got right back to him. /sarc.)

...

4/5/06 1415hrs - Supeona was served on Durham Access ... (WTF? Why the delay?)


198 posted on 06/16/2006 6:58:02 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

It was only the day before that Gottlieb/Nifong finally squeezed the bogus IDs out of Crystal. Without the IDs there couldn't be indictments, and perhaps until then they saw no need to do mundane things like actually collect evidence.


199 posted on 06/16/2006 7:15:48 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: maggief

Yep, maybe that tidbit is true.

We would then know why the AV had some of her injuries, and why it took so long to get to the Kroger.

Kim pushed CGM out of her car and into the street, and then had to wrestle her back in!

This would explain a few things, imo.


200 posted on 06/16/2006 7:16:22 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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