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Corsi, Tancredo on Liddy to Challenge WH unauthorized work on 'North American Union'
World Net Daily ^ | June 14, 2006 | WND

Posted on 06/14/2006 1:22:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk

Author Jerome Corsi and Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., will be guests tomorrow on G. Gordon Liddy's radio show to discuss the White House's effort to implement a trilateral agreement with Mexico and Canada that could lead to a North American union, despite having no authorization from Congress.

Corsi and Tancredo will join Liddy for the entire 11 a.m. hour, Eastern time, and take calls from listeners.

Corsi reported this week that Bush administration working groups have not disclosed the results of their work despite two years of massive effort within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

The groups, working under the North American Free Trade Agreement office in the Department of Commerce, are to implement the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or SPP, signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005.

The trilateral agreement, signed as a joint declaration not submitted to Congress for review, led to the creation of the SPP office within the Department of Commerce.

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.


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To: hedgetrimmer

I tried googleing and yahooing "working groups" too and I can't seem to find a definition, just that they are everywhere and seemed to have started in (what else) the Clinton Administration.


601 posted on 06/17/2006 9:16:50 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: tertiary01; 1rudeboy
I tried googleing and yahooing "working groups" too and I can't seem to find a definition, just that they are everywhere and seemed to have started in (what else) the Clinton Administration.

There's nothing on on the USTR website, 1rudeboy?
602 posted on 06/17/2006 9:27:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Nothing in Mirriam-Webster, hedge?


603 posted on 06/17/2006 9:28:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

What is a "working group" and where do they get their authorization as a function of the US government?


604 posted on 06/17/2006 9:31:41 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I just realized, you could contact Rep. Tancredo or Prof. Corsi and ask them what a "working group" is.


605 posted on 06/17/2006 9:31:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You should be able to tell us what a "working group" is, since there are many associated with NAFTA and "free trade".


606 posted on 06/17/2006 9:39:54 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Ok, I'll play for a little while. I suppose it works like this: the working-group gets its authority from the department head, the department head gets his authority from the Cabinet head, and the Cabinet head gets his authority from the Executive. Don't forget that one or more of the above require confirmation by Congress (see also executive power, separation of powers, and the U.S. Constitution, specifically Article II, Section 2). It's Saturday and I don't feel like re-reading the entire Constitution, so again, all that is off the top of my head.
607 posted on 06/17/2006 9:43:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: jer33 3; Smartass; EternalVigilance; sam_paine
Sam Paine makes some excellent points vis-a-vis the UK's participation in the EU.

In thinking and stating that this SPP is coming down the pike, most of us are not indulging in wild-eyed conspiracy talk. Thanks to the SPP website, which every freeper should at least check out, we know the broad outline of the plan and the stated intentions of the planners. But since this is being kept at a very low level of public information, we still haven't the faintest clue on its implementation ... or as Sam does, to compare us to the UK in regard to the EU .... what our eventual level of participation is going to be.

IMHO, the economic/financial integration seems an already done deal ... a ramp-up of NAFTA.
Common currency? NAU Passports? Open Borders? Shared Security?
We need to know immediately what the particular tripartite working groups are doing with these issues. What is our level of commitment to these concepts which are so obviously on the table? These issues are serious enough to warrant any American citizen's close attention.

I think it fair to say that there has been some attempt to keep this under the public radar. It is also fair to surmise that this planned integration, on whatever level, is inextricably linked to the goverment's obvious unwillingness to control illegal immigration and maintain border security. If those given to conspiracy theory find this provocative, they can certainly be forgiven, if not necessarily indulged.

608 posted on 06/17/2006 9:46:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon ... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Smartass; All
The Case Against Continental Integration

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November 4, 2005
609 posted on 06/17/2006 9:58:47 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: Kenny Bunk; 1rudeboy
We need to know immediately what the particular tripartite working groups are doing with these issues

Since, according to 1rudeboy (although he hasn't defined them for us yet), these "working groups" are a legitimate function of government through the excecutive branch,we should know the names of the people in the groups, see that their meetings are run under Robert's Rules, have minutes of those meetings and have input by ordinary citizens.
610 posted on 06/17/2006 10:00:15 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

And now it is your turn to find the Constitutional Authority for the above.


611 posted on 06/17/2006 10:02:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nopardons
member nations of the EU had to have their populaces VOTE to join... They still all have borders.... a citizen of one of those nations, is NOT automatically allowed to be a citizen of any other nation in the EU.

That is certainly true, and one would of course hope that this referendum, and citizenship regulation would both hold true here.

In regard to border control, it is certainly much less rigorous within the EU than I think we would always need with Mexico. Citizens of EU member states certainly have freedom of movement within the EU, while remaining citizens of their home country. The attempt to control movement from outside of the EU is problematical. There is, as you know, an enormous illegal alien probem.

612 posted on 06/17/2006 10:04:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon ... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway)
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To: hedgetrimmer
(although he hasn't defined them for us yet)

I'm still working on the definition of "protectionism" you asked for some time ago. I was completely stumped, since I figured you understand English.

613 posted on 06/17/2006 10:05:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...
For a very interesting link, see # 609
614 posted on 06/17/2006 10:05:23 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: 1rudeboy; hedgetrimmer
The constitutionality of these Commerce Department "Working Groups," is an interesting question, particularly if they are dealing in major Foreign Policy, which traditionally has not been their bailiwick, i.e. Trade Policy.

I hate trying to figure this out ... not my job ... but I tend to think the Commerce Department working groups probably are legal, or at least that a darn good constitutional case could be made for them.

What concerns me is more on a practical level. There has been little or no oversight, no presentation of their work, and up until now, a news blackout, whether intentional or not.

Now would be a good time for the Department of Commerce to report out on the results and progress of their working groups to appropriate congressional committees.

I for one, and I hope my congressman, would really like to know what the heck is going on. Right now.

615 posted on 06/17/2006 10:19:53 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon ... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Minutemen Book Prompts Calls for Congressional Investigation

Authors of upcoming book “Minutemen” uncover White House efforts to create a regulatory agency with Mexico and Canada while keeping Congress in the dark. Jerome Corsi to announce findings while appearing with Rep. Tancredo on national radio on Thursday.

Washington, DC (PRWEB) June 15, 2006 -- Revelations in an upcoming book by the founder of the Minuteman Project and the co-author of “Unfit for Command” may result in a Congressional investigation of the White House, this according to the authors. At issue are the Bush Administration's secretive efforts to establish a North American regulatory agency with Mexico and Canada.

“Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders” (World Ahead Publishing; hardcover: $25.95; ISBN 0977898415) is authored by Jim Gilchrist and Jerome R. Corsi and scheduled for nationwide release on July 25. But shocking information contained in the book is already causing concern among lawmakers who are worried that the Bush Administration is ceding America's border sovereignty to a North American trans-national bureaucracy without their approval.

While researching their highly anticipated book on illegal immigration, the authors uncovered evidence suggesting that the Bush Administration established an office in the Department of Commerce to collaborate on regulation with the Mexican and Canadian governments and without oversight from Congress. Corsi is scheduled to join Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) on the nationally syndicated G. Gordon Liddy Show on Thursday as he calls upon Congress to investigate this previously secret initiative.

The office in question is tasked with implementing the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), a tri-lateral accord signed last year by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin. According to the State Department's website, the SPP is intended to “protect North America from external threats…implement a border-facilitation strategy…pursue regulatory cooperation…and (enhance) environmental stewardship.”

“The SPP was never authorized by Congress, and no congressional committee has oversight of the SPP working groups,” claims Corsi, whose 2004 book “Unfit for Command” helped defeat John Kerry’s presidential bid. “The Administration has also refused to disclose the results of those working groups. It seems like President Bush doesn't want Americans to know that a North American version of the European Union is being created right under their nose, and without congressional approval.”

“Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders” is a selection of the month for the American Compass Book Club, and an alternate selection for the Conservative Book Club, History Book Club, and Military Book Club. It will be available in bookstores nationwide in late July.


http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/6/emw399505.htm


616 posted on 06/17/2006 10:21:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Our constitution guarantees a republican form of government. That's something worth fighting for...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Corsi has an upcoming book? I'm shocked.


617 posted on 06/17/2006 10:24:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Godebert
They know a third party Conservative candidate running on a strong anti-illegal immigration platform will sink the moderate republican party.

From your keyboard to God's ears. Amen!

618 posted on 06/17/2006 10:25:58 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: jer33 3

Your #609 is a really educational link. Folks here would be well-served by going and reading it. It's pretty long, so I'll resist the temptation to post it.


619 posted on 06/17/2006 10:26:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Our constitution guarantees a republican form of government. That's something worth fighting for...)
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To: 1rudeboy
Corsi has an upcoming book? I'm shocked.

Establishment politicians beware. Corsi has a talent for rocking their world, you know.

620 posted on 06/17/2006 10:28:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Our constitution guarantees a republican form of government. That's something worth fighting for...)
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