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Corsi, Tancredo on Liddy to Challenge WH unauthorized work on 'North American Union'
World Net Daily ^ | June 14, 2006 | WND

Posted on 06/14/2006 1:22:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk

Author Jerome Corsi and Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., will be guests tomorrow on G. Gordon Liddy's radio show to discuss the White House's effort to implement a trilateral agreement with Mexico and Canada that could lead to a North American union, despite having no authorization from Congress.

Corsi and Tancredo will join Liddy for the entire 11 a.m. hour, Eastern time, and take calls from listeners.

Corsi reported this week that Bush administration working groups have not disclosed the results of their work despite two years of massive effort within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

The groups, working under the North American Free Trade Agreement office in the Department of Commerce, are to implement the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or SPP, signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005.

The trilateral agreement, signed as a joint declaration not submitted to Congress for review, led to the creation of the SPP office within the Department of Commerce.

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.


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To: conservativecorner

LOL

I can't exaggerate at all, but YOU can??

It fits I guess.

Now I have bigger and better things to worry about, not this trivial made up BS from Jerome Corsi et al.

Have a good one

LOL


341 posted on 06/15/2006 8:15:54 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - WTFO)
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To: conservativecorner

"Where is the 20 page article I posted? You made the asinine statement, now please back it up, or will that use up all your brain cells for the morning?"


I'm glad some of you are still able to be lighthearted when dealing with these *(&*()*&'s. Like I said, I am freeking appauled that people like Mike are allowed to remain members here.

They ought to be banned for their behavior. The personal attacks and namecalling they do when they troll and divebomb threads has gotten completely out of hand. I don't care who they are friends with or how freeking long they've been members.

I know they are disappointed to be in the bottom of the minority barrel on these issues that are in opposition to Bush, but thats no excuse to constantly be getting away with this b.s.


342 posted on 06/15/2006 9:10:01 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: Kimberly GG
Ditto your thoughts! No person or National Party is above the Constitution of the United States. To throw away core Conservative values to win at any cost is ludicrous.
343 posted on 06/15/2006 9:36:47 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Kenny Bunk
Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

SSP operates strictly on a need-to-know basis --- and the American taxpayers and Congressmen don't need to know. Until it's too late.

If there is to be an Amero, or whatever name, the American & Canadien taxpayers will get screwed for the benefit of the poorest big country in the world Mexico.

344 posted on 06/15/2006 9:45:18 AM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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To: EternalVigilance; jer33 3

My hat's off to both of you for the links, articles, and info. You seem to have brought this thread back from the precipice of harassment and intimidation to a semblance of reasonable discussion on the subject while squelching most of the vitriolic attacks by the global economy goon squad. If you have a ping list on this subject, please include me on future posts. Thanks. - OB1


345 posted on 06/15/2006 9:57:03 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course it's germane. We're discussing the loss of American sovereignty to foreigners

No. We are talking about a North American superstate. And, frankly, spamming the thread with long articles was not what I ask for. Start a new thread.

Is this another giveaway of sovereignty that the Administration doesn't really want talked about much?

YOU say it's a loss of sovereignty. Get this and get it good:
Just because you say so, doesn't make it true. I. Don't. Believe. You.

346 posted on 06/15/2006 9:59:57 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Once again, I don't see why posting long articles that no one will ever read and most from 2004 or earlier helps you prove your point.


347 posted on 06/15/2006 10:02:58 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: jer33 3; EternalVigilance

Now that is more like it. Post links to ancient articles that no one will bother to link to rather than posting the whole article so that we have to scroll down to ignore it.


348 posted on 06/15/2006 10:06:12 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Kimberly GG
I'm glad some of you are still able to be lighthearted when dealing with these *(&*()*&'s. Like I said, I am freeking appauled that people like Mike are allowed to remain members here.

They ought to be banned for their behavior. The personal attacks and namecalling they do when they troll and divebomb threads has gotten completely out of hand. I don't care who they are friends with or how freeking long they've been members.


Thanks for the vote of confidence. Glad I could make your day too. LOL.
349 posted on 06/15/2006 10:27:08 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - WTFO)
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To: OB1kNOb; EternalVigilance; All

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/news/008-2006.htm

News Release Contact:
Telephone: Gabriela Garcia
(512) 475-2134
TTC-35 draft report refines study area and identifies project need April 4, 2006

DALLAS - A multi-use transportation alternative to the heavily congested Interstate 35 corridor could lie slightly to the east while incorporating the interstate's southern half, according to a 4,000-page draft environmental impact statement for the Trans-Texas Corridor-35 that was released today.

The report's findings show a narrowed study area from Gainesville to Laredo to be generally 10 miles wide and within close proximity to I-35 and metropolitan centers, except where it is centered on I-35 south of San Antonio to Laredo.

"The Trans-Texas Corridor will provide unprecedented trade opportunities, a faster transportation system that moves freight and hazardous materials out of city centers, and thousands of new jobs," Gov. Rick Perry said. "Today we take an important step toward realizing this goal."

The report's findings are not final and will be subject to more than 50 public hearings along the I-35 corridor this summer.

The narrowed study area was identified as the preferred corridor alternative because it best supports the purpose and need for TTC-35 and incorporates the most miles of existing highways and rail - 195 and 214 miles respectively.

These findings are part of the TTC-35 draft environmental impact statement prepared by the Texas Department of Transportation and the Federal Highway Administration.

The draft report also examined population and traffic demand within the I-35 corridor and concluded that increased freight traffic and growing congestion compound the need for additional transportation alternatives within the I-35 corridor.

"After more than two years of analysis, the question regarding the need for TTC-35 is now well documented," said Michael Behrens, TxDOT executive director, referring to a section of the draft report on why the project should be built. "We have to stay focused on the ultimate goal - making a positive impact to the I-35 corridor and improving statewide mobility for the next 30-50 years."

"Texas has a transportation problem and we have a plan to solve the problem," said Ric Williamson, chairman of the Texas Transportation Commission. "Our strategic plan contains long-term, mid-term, and short-term tactics. Building TTC-35 is one of our long-term tactical decisions to reduce congestion, enhance safety, expand economic opportunity, improve air quality, and preserve the value of IH-35."

Already, approximately 45 percent of the 21 million Texans live within 50 miles of I-35. With this significant portion of the population centered around I-35, the corridor is no longer an efficient option for intercity and freight travel but rather has become a commuter route, particularly in the urban areas.

Even with planned improvements to I-35, traffic demand will reach or exceed capacity by 2025. In addition, the draft report documents previous studies that indicated I-35 would need to be expanded to 16 lanes in metro areas and 12 lanes through Central Texas to meet the corridor's future traffic demands.

"Our next mission is to make absolutely certain that our regional leaders understand the full value of the Trans-Texas Corridor. I know my hometown of San Antonio is excited to learn more about the opportunities of linking its city center to this powerful new system," said Hope Andrade, a member of the Texas Transportation Commission.

Transportation models also indicate commercial truck traffic in Texas will grow dramatically. By 2025, freight traffic will grow 132 percent, which translates into an average of 260,465 commercial trucks each day on Texas roads. Already, 20-38 percent of current traffic on I-35 is from commercial trucks and a significant portion is due to international trade.

In addition to determining the need for TTC-35, other factors were also analyzed to identify the narrowed study area. These included land use, engineering and design, traffic flow and potential impacts on environmental factors, such as wetlands, farmland soils, cultural resources and socio-economic issues. Public input from 117 public meetings was also considered.

"Looking at both the study area revealed today and last week's rail proposal, it's clear that Texas will be the trade corridor for this hemisphere," said Commissioner Ted Houghton, referring to last week's announcement that the state had received a proposal to build a new 600-mile grade-separated freight-rail line from Dallas/Fort Worth to Mexico.

The next step in the tiered environmental process is to continue gathering public comments. Numerous hearings are planned this summer throughout the study area. Final approval by the Federal Highway Administration on a narrowed study area could happen by next summer, however it would not authorize construction.

If federally approved, the environmental process would continue with Tier Two focusing on the narrowed 10-mile wide study area. It is within this study area that a final project route would be determined for roads, rail and utilities. If approved, the Tier Two studies would authorize construction.

"Today's announcement validates the strength of this concept. Our next big opportunity is rapidly taking shape, and that's Trans-Texas Corridor 69," Commissioner John W. Johnson said. In December 2005, Governor Perry instructed TxDOT to partner with the private sector to develop an interstate-quality highway corridor with additional rail freight capacity that connects the Lower Rio Grande River Valley to I-37 and continues along the south and east portions of Texas from Corpus Christi through Houston all the way to northeast Texas.

The complete draft environmental impact statement for TTC-35 , including a map of the narrowed study area, is available on www.keeptexasmoving.org.


350 posted on 06/15/2006 10:44:24 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: AmishDude

Why don't you tell us what you think sovereignty means?


351 posted on 06/15/2006 10:45:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Sovereignty means what it has always meant: A monopoly on the legitimate use of force.

Duh.

352 posted on 06/15/2006 10:49:47 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
And, of course, that comes from this philosopher:


Mmmmm, philosophy with onions.

353 posted on 06/15/2006 10:51:44 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: OB1kNOb; All
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/aus/mis/i35mis/execsumm.htm

Priced New Lanes - Texas: I-35

PRICED NEW LANES - TEXAS: I-35 Value Priced Express Lanes in Waco
Andy Petter , Texas Department of Transportation , apetter@dot.state.tx.us

01/18/2006

TxDOT is evaluating managed lane options for the 94-mile portion of I-35 in Bell, Falls, McLennan and Hill Counties. While it is largely rural in nature, the segment is still very congested and there are no alternative parallel routes in the area. Trucks are a major component of traffic volumes using the I-35 corridor. I-35 is a major north-south NAFTA Corridor for the central portion of the nation. Even though some elements of NAFTA have not been fully implemented, trucks currently account for 25 to 30 percent of all traffic on this portion of I-35 making truck travel a major factor when considering traffic congestion issues. Currently, I-35 is typically comprised of two general-purpose lanes in each direction serving 50,000 to 90,000 vehicles daily, except that the Williamson County segment already has three general-purpose lanes in each direction. The concept for the study would be to convert one lane in each direction to a managed lane. This would reduce the need for costly construction, utilizing existing capacity more efficiently. The proposal will also study adding capacity and examine how value pricing can potentially be used as a tool for existing and future management of travel demand in the corridor and how alternative pricing strategies can be utilized. One consideration is to require all vehicles to be equipped with transponders to use the facility from the outset.

The proposal would potentially lead to implementation of a managed lanes approach as an alternative to construction in a congested corridor with limited alternatives. The original proposal submitted is attached.

Pre-Implementation Study: Awarded January 2006

Document Title: IH 35 Corridor - Georgetown to Hillsboro Value Priced Managed Lanes

23 TX Waco IH-35.pdf (11 pages)
354 posted on 06/15/2006 10:59:48 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: AmishDude

I remember when you used to be a reasonable freeper who argued with logic. What the heck happened?


355 posted on 06/15/2006 11:01:37 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jer33 3
"Looking at both the study area revealed today and last week's rail proposal, it's clear that Texas will be the trade corridor for this hemisphere," said Commissioner Ted Houghton, referring to last week's announcement that the state had received a proposal to build a new 600-mile grade-separated freight-rail line from Dallas/Fort Worth to Mexico....

Hmmm. I wonder how much Mexico will contribute towards paying the cost to build this trans-national rail line?

356 posted on 06/15/2006 11:03:05 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: jmc813

Logic? LOGIC??? My God, man, look at the freakin' title of this insane delusional article!

These people are CRAZY. Insane. Koocoo. One taco short of a combination plate, one bulb short of a chandelier, one eye short of a spider, one nipple short of a Playboy centerfold, one think tank short of a conspiracy.

Why don't we start a thread: "The moon landing? Staged???" After all, the government has been really quiet about the green cheese that they may have found in the so-called moon landings.


357 posted on 06/15/2006 11:20:32 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Godebert
You're wasting your time with the OBL BushBots.

The funny thing is that there are only 8 or so of them, yet they post so heavily in order to make it appear as if they are in the mainstream of FR. Male Bushbots give me the creeps.

358 posted on 06/15/2006 11:23:41 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I love being immature on threads like these, especially when there is absolutely NOTHING to them. It drives the nuts, well, nuts

What you might not realize is that people undecided on this particular issue are going to see the well-written arguments of Corsi and then contrast it to the juvenalia you cognitive dissonance sufferers are posting and they sure as heck aren't going to end up in your camp. That's why you guys remain a minority here on FR.

359 posted on 06/15/2006 11:28:19 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: AmishDude
These people are CRAZY. Insane. Koocoo. One taco short of a combination plate, one bulb short of a chandelier, one eye short of a spider, one nipple short of a Playboy centerfold, one think tank short of a conspiracy.

If they are as nuts as you say, then surely it would be easy to intellectually counter their points and win people to your side. I have yet to see that from any of you 8 or so who keep popping up on these threads.

360 posted on 06/15/2006 11:49:13 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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