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To: SoothingDave

"You seem to be suggesting the former. If so, you are a kook. "

How nice.
Ad hominem.
I am *so* surprised.

FYI, I have seen drivers at intersections look at a line of car traffic coming with an [unfortunate] biker ahead of them.
Rather than wait til the line of traffic passes by, or wait to cut in front of *car*, they will invariably cut out in front of the biker, instead.

Hubby and I have both seen the other drivers look us straight in the eye, ignore the flashing of high beams/motor revving/horn blowing warning and pull out -anyway-.

Why?

Because they'd rather take a chance with a light weight bike hitting them than a 2 ton vehicle.

Yes, they DO do it on purpose.

"If you, instead, are only bemoaning the reality that motorcycles will get involved in accidents and the riders will get seriously hurt, then you need to deal with the world as it is, not how you wish it might be."


Give me a break.
I've stood beside the caskets of more people killed by careless car drivers that you'd ever imagine.
Don't give me some half-assed sermon about "reality".

After you've held a dying friend's bloodied body while waiting for an ambulance to arrive, get back to me and we'll discuss "reality".

The woman driving the van that killed 2 of my friend's in '97 had to choose between hitting her brakes and possibly bruising her little dog who was lying on the floor at her feet or killing my friends. Guess which choice she made. Does that sound "on purpose" enough to you?
Did they somehow fail the "visibility test" because she "didn't notice" 10 Harleys right in front of her?

And just in case you think that qualifies as a plausible scenario, what of the drivers who intentionally pull into and cut off the 2000+ bikes that make the WV VA Hospital benefit ride every single year?

We aren't "visible" enough?

Even with state police escorts, flashing lights and "motorcade warning" vehicles?











219 posted on 06/12/2006 2:16:21 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: Salamander
Yes, they DO do it on purpose.

Thanks for the evidence. Be careful out there. You never know who might be waiting to run you down. LOL

SD

220 posted on 06/12/2006 2:18:29 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Salamander

I've seen people pull the exact same idiot manuever of pulling out right in front of the pack with no motorcycle involved. My favorite is bringing up the back of the pack with nothing but empty road behind me and the idiot has been waiting for the pack to go by then suddenly they decide the 5 more seconds it would take to wait for me to pass is too long so they go right in front of my car. Some people are just idiot drivers, just because their eyes see you doesn't mean the brain does, the one advantage cars have the ability to cause more damage and thus increase the percent chance of their brain seeing you, but it's only an increase not a garauntee.


248 posted on 06/12/2006 3:26:08 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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