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To: Salamander
You've obviously missed the *other* thread which is now locked.

Obviously.

People are cawling out of the woodwork to positively crow about the "stupidity" and "folly" of riding -any- motorcycle.

I've said right on this very thread that someone paid millions of dollars for their body in proper working order is foolish to ride a motorcycle. That doesn't mean I'm happy he got hurt, I'm devastated. But it does point out his folly.

Sorry you don't see this.

I have, however, seen friends die because of car drivers who didn't bother to wait til they'd passed by before pulling out of a driveway/intersection/ramp.

And you think the car drivers did this on purpose? Or is it that motorcycles lack the visibility of larger vehicles?

You seem to be suggesting the former. If so, you are a kook.

If you, instead, are only bemoaning the reality that motorcycles will get involved in accidents and the riders will get seriously hurt, then you need to deal with the world as it is, not how you wish it might be.

An athlete paid millions of dollars should not engage in foolish behavior.

SD

211 posted on 06/12/2006 1:45:21 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

"You seem to be suggesting the former. If so, you are a kook. "

How nice.
Ad hominem.
I am *so* surprised.

FYI, I have seen drivers at intersections look at a line of car traffic coming with an [unfortunate] biker ahead of them.
Rather than wait til the line of traffic passes by, or wait to cut in front of *car*, they will invariably cut out in front of the biker, instead.

Hubby and I have both seen the other drivers look us straight in the eye, ignore the flashing of high beams/motor revving/horn blowing warning and pull out -anyway-.

Why?

Because they'd rather take a chance with a light weight bike hitting them than a 2 ton vehicle.

Yes, they DO do it on purpose.

"If you, instead, are only bemoaning the reality that motorcycles will get involved in accidents and the riders will get seriously hurt, then you need to deal with the world as it is, not how you wish it might be."


Give me a break.
I've stood beside the caskets of more people killed by careless car drivers that you'd ever imagine.
Don't give me some half-assed sermon about "reality".

After you've held a dying friend's bloodied body while waiting for an ambulance to arrive, get back to me and we'll discuss "reality".

The woman driving the van that killed 2 of my friend's in '97 had to choose between hitting her brakes and possibly bruising her little dog who was lying on the floor at her feet or killing my friends. Guess which choice she made. Does that sound "on purpose" enough to you?
Did they somehow fail the "visibility test" because she "didn't notice" 10 Harleys right in front of her?

And just in case you think that qualifies as a plausible scenario, what of the drivers who intentionally pull into and cut off the 2000+ bikes that make the WV VA Hospital benefit ride every single year?

We aren't "visible" enough?

Even with state police escorts, flashing lights and "motorcade warning" vehicles?











219 posted on 06/12/2006 2:16:21 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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