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1 posted on 06/08/2006 2:35:41 PM PDT by nhoward14
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Just days after a British climber was left to die near Mount Everest's summit, an American guide abandoned his second bid to stand on top of the world so he could rescue a mountaineer mistakenly given up for dead.

The only decent thing to do. Personally, I'd take a lot more pride in saving someone's life than in climbing to the top of a mountain.
2 posted on 06/08/2006 2:37:16 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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There are good people here on earth. We thank them from the bottom of our heart. As for the evil ones, they will pay for their heartlessness.


5 posted on 06/08/2006 2:45:54 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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I've been following these stories the last week or so. Anyone who would allow someone to die while they have an opportunity to prevent it, only so they can say they climbed the mountain, well, such a person is so twisted you can't really call him or her human.


6 posted on 06/08/2006 2:46:27 PM PDT by stevem
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Not only did his team leave him for dead, but they stole his hat, gloves, sleeping bag, and other supplies? Ooooh, if that's not a case for revenge, um a law suit, I don't know what is.
7 posted on 06/08/2006 2:47:45 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Just days after a British climber was left to die near Mount Everest's summit, an American guide abandoned his second bid to stand on top of the world so he could rescue a mountaineer mistakenly given up for dead.

Not only did Daniel Mazur not scale the world's highest peak from the northern side, he also failed to get his two paying clients to the top.

"It was very disappointing for me to miss my chance at the summit, but even more that I could not get my job done," Mazur, of Olympia, Wash., told The Associated Press upon returning to Nepal's capital, Katmandu, on Thursday.

Mazur, his two clients and a Sherpa guide were just two hours from the 29,035-foot peak on the morning of May 26 when they came across 50-year-old Lincoln Hall, who was left a day earlier when his own guides believed he was dead.

I agree that leaving the guy to die would be immoral and wrong, but I also think that the rescuers should present a nice hefty bill to the guy for saving his life. About enough to finance sending throse two guys to the top again and paying the guide's bills would be about right.

10 posted on 06/08/2006 2:51:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (You go to Heaven for the climate; Hell for the company and conversation.)
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I guess this answers the question about whether you can rescue someone from the peak. The answer is YES.

So, I wonder if this changes the opinion of anybody who defended the other climbers in the other story before.


12 posted on 06/08/2006 2:51:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Mr. Hall ought to be careful in selecting his guides. They thought he was DEAD when he was alert and speaking in full sentences??? Was he taking a nap and they didn't bother tapping him on the shoulder to try to wake him up, before deciding he was dead and taking off???


13 posted on 06/08/2006 2:51:40 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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"I hope when I am there, in that state, and someone passes me ... I hope it is someone like me."

Mr. Mazur is a wonderful and decent man.

That said, why the HELL would he put himself into a situation which by his own admission will most likely lead to his death?
14 posted on 06/08/2006 2:53:07 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Think nothing is impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.)
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OK, guys . . . this man was rescued from 28,200 - only 835 feet from the summit. David Sharp died, abandoned, 1,000 feet from the summit as 40 climbers walked past him.

Where are all those "experienced mountain climbers" who were on the other thread dissing Sir Edmund Hillary and claiming that "nobody could have gotten David Sharp down from that altitude alive."

< . . . crickets . . . >

16 posted on 06/08/2006 2:55:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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I am sure this guy is in pretty bad shape, likely will lose many of his digits and maybe more.

This is a great lesson, sure would feel bad if you had walked by the other guy, bagged the summit and now read this article.

Nice guys those Italians.

schu
18 posted on 06/08/2006 2:57:05 PM PDT by schu
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["Oh yeah, it was worth it," he said. "You can always go back to the summit but you only have one life to live. If we had left the man to die, that would have always been on my mind ... How could you live with yourself?"]

He's a good man.


22 posted on 06/08/2006 3:03:13 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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More of the story, from another source:

... feeling fit, Lincoln had gone on and reached the 8850-meter (29,035 feet) summit at about 9 a.m. on May 25. After some celebratory radio calls, he and the two Sherpas accompanying him headed back down. Not long afterward Lincoln was hit by cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) and became disoriented, ataxic and at 8800 meters (28,870 feet) collapsed. For almost 9 hours the Sherpas tried to help and lowered him down over very technical sections of the mountain. But under the influence of extreme altitude sickness, Lincoln became delusional and obstructive and they determined at 7 p.m. that they could not help him further.

With night coming on, expedition leader Abramov ordered the Sherpas to abandon him and save themselves, so they returned to the camp at 8300 meters suffering snow blindness. Abramov issued the news that Lincoln Hall had perished, and the report hit the wires across Australia soon after.

At 7 a.m. the next morning, American guide Dan Mazur was climbing towards the summit with some clients when they came across Hall who, though inert, showed weak signs of life. One report on EverestNews.com claimed Lincoln was sitting with his legs dangling over the face of the mountain half undressed and without a hat. They report his first words were, "I imagine you are surprised to see me here."

Mazur administered tea and radioed down to base camp. Immediately 13 Sherpas camped at the North Col (7000 meters) began climbing back up to rescue Lincoln, under the direction of Abramov. By 11 a.m., three Sherpas with medicine, oxygen and tea reached Lincoln at the Second Step (8600 meters) and with the help of Mazur and team they began to move him down on a stretcher....

...Sirdar Mingma Gelu and more Sherpas arrived, and brought Hall to the North Col Camp at 7000 meters where he was treated by Russian Doctor Andrey Selivanov for "acute psychosis" and given oxygen while sleeping. So rapid is the recovery from edema after descending, Lincoln walked the last 500 meters into camp unaided. A further day-long descent brought him back down to Advanced Base Camp (ABC) and much thicker air — the best medicine for altitude problems....

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30 posted on 06/08/2006 3:36:02 PM PDT by elli1
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I hope Mazur gets some kind of medal and reward for his unselfishness.


34 posted on 06/08/2006 7:14:41 PM PDT by KittyKares
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Lincoln Hall's photo:

Update: Lincoln Hall has walked across the border into Nepal. Dan Mazur and the group are in Base camp should be back in Katmandu in a day or two. Lincoln, is having a hard time speaking and reportedly does not recall much from the night up high....

from http://www.everestnews.com/Summitclimb2005/everestdan06022006.htm

35 posted on 06/08/2006 7:23:42 PM PDT by KittyKares
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Thanks for this. Very heart warming.

jm


36 posted on 06/08/2006 7:48:54 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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