Beer Help

6/4/06 | Vision

[Vision]

I now own the American Dream, my own beer refrigerator.

I like Bud Light and I like it very cold. I'm playing with the thermostat to see how cold I can get the beer before it freezes. I had a can the other day that was perfect. I opened it up and for the first few minutes I drank an ice crystal or two.

The temperature at the top of the fridge is 28 degrees, 25 at the bottom, and I can get it colder. The temperature of the beer is the same as the area of the fridge it came from. If I open a 28 degree can, the beer will freeze(or turn into a Slurpee) for a few minutes after it's opened. What's strange is the 25 degree beer does not freeze at all. Anyone know what is going on?

[Vision]

Cvengr, you rock

You're right, that's exactly it. The 25 degree beer is too cold for the gas to escape, so when opened it remains a liquid. The sweet spot then is between that point, and the temp where the beer will freeze into a solid block. Time to lower the temperature of the fridge.

Thanks again

[Vision]

Sure does

Are the 25 degree and 28 degree beers opened under the same humidity/dew point conditions?

Yep, and I think I got this figured out.

[johnny7]

Cut the beer with some Wild Turkey... the 101. You and the fridge should be good to go on Pluto.

[Enterprise]

Actually, the best panther piss is derived from said panther having a healthy meal of fat weasels and white rabbits.

[spunkets]

The freezing point depression is mostly dependant on the alcohol content. It is less effected by the sugar and CO₂ content of the beer. The alcohol content drops it ~2.2^oF and the sugar<0.7^oF and CO₂ drops it ~1.4^oF. As ice crystals form, even in the can, the solute concentriton goes up and depresses the freezing point of the remaining solution futher.

[llevrok]

IMHO, Bud Light isn't beer. Cat Pee!

[spunkets]

oops alcohol's ~4.4^oF.

[pax_et_bonum]

ATTENTION: THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BUD LIGHT AND MAKING IT VERY COLD. I UNDERSTAND AFICIONADOS CONSIDER THIS BLASPHEMY. I DON'T CARE. THANK YOU.

:-)

[jdm]

This reads like a "Playboy Advisor" question, if there ever was one!

[Mike Darancette]

I like Bud Light and I like it very cold.

IMHO: A wast of a beer refrigerator.

[handk]

The path is straight... and the children of the path walk upon it straightly in its straighty straightness.

[1rudeboy]

Don't forget that you can chill other beers even colder, because they contain less water.

[1234]

nice label-have rarely seen product, but not tried yet; likely would enjoy.
i'll mention 'Stella Artois'(Belgian beer-lager, i guess)as "one of my all time...".

[Flightdeck]

"When liquid freezes it increases in size so..."

Because I'm a nerd, I will take issue with that statement. Actually water is one of only a few liquids that increase in volume when it freezes. It is truly unique.

[LukeL]

To get even more nerdy water will shrink in volume as it gets close to its freezing temp, but at around 4 degrees Celsius this stops and it then expands until it hits the freezing point.

[Oberon]

I like Bud Light and I like it very cold.

You'd have to...it's the only way it's tolerable.

[muir_redwoods]

Beer comments aside, I suspect that the temperature readings are not accurate. If it freezes at 28 degrees it will certainly freeze at 25 degrees.

Do what my high school logic teacher(yes I actually had a logic teacher in high school) recommended when faced with a paradox....

Question first principles.

[Professional Engineer]

I'm playing with the thermostat to see how cold I can get the beer before it freezes

Thermostats are for wimps. Try a throttle next time!

Jet powered beer coller.

[Cvengr]

The MacAndrews product line has a similar label on several products, but the Pale Ale and Stout are probably easier to find. The Pale Ale has a brown bottle cap, while the Scotch Ale has a Green cap. Tastes as smooth after 2 pints as the first, hot or cold.