[ShadowAce]

Vista has already lost at my company.

[N3WBI3]

With a 3 year desktop greening cycle it will be at least three years past the release of Vista that we could migrate off to it. Of course MS will reduce XP support to critical patches only soon after vista is released so this might get me to setup Linux dumb terminals that rdp into a windows terminal server..

[MadIvan]

Vista has already lost at my company.

It's lost at my firm too - after I introduced them to Ubuntu, that became the upgrade path after support for Windows 2000 runs out.

Regards, Ivan

[softwarecreator]

Vista has already lost at my company.

Yeah, I'm sure it was given a fair chance to win {{rolls eyes heavenward}}

[ExDemSince92]

Vista has already lost at my company.

That's what I am seeing a lot of recently.

There just isn't a *need* for it. Most are perfectly content to keep 2000 Professional or what little XP they have deployed. Throw in a surprising amount of Linux in the back office and you get a not-so-rosey picture if you're Microsoft.

You know, if they could have done 2000 Pro sooner and spent the requisite time hardening it, they would have been a lot better off. Personally, I think 2000 was their best release. It was what NT4 should have been.

As for Aero...Note to Microsoft, you aren't Apple. Never will be. Get over it. You're viewed as a stodgy corporation now. Kind of like IBM minus the aura of competency. All the marketing in the world will not change this. Besides, you've shown time and time again that you can't even get the basics right. Cut down on the featuritis and make a stable operating system. Only if you can manage this, should you concentrate on pretty widgets for executive types to click,