Windows Vista vs. Linux: Why Vista Might Lose the Battle

PlayFuls.com ^ | 05/29/2006 | Cyberlord

[Golden Eagle]

I guess the capitalist in me doesn't understand the whole concept.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Since their admitted goal is "to make propietary software obsolete", a guy like softwarecreator would have to find another paying profession.

[Golden Eagle]

Many companies pay developers to work on Open Source projects

But obviously the money from software companies runs out eventually, if they're giving their software away or being replaced by those that do. The free software guys say they plan on making their money for "support". Who in the heck wants to have to pay for software support? Or be using software that needs it?

[rzeznikj at stout]

For the zillionth time: OSS DOES NOT EQUAL FSF!!!!

Apparently, that little tidbit is conveniently left out--though I can't blame you.

Your bosses at Microsoft must really be cracking down on you, eh?

[FLAMING DEATH]

No, stupid is making errors when posting to point out someone else's errors.

[Golden Eagle]

It's a PDA I'm using, and I still have better English than most of you guys. Back to your inferno, enjoy your burn...

[softwarecreator]

That's an interesting point, I didn't realize this was a practice.  Makes sense, but I guess my confusion is that if they give it away for free, where's the benefit for the company?

[softwarecreator]

Windows Terminal Server

Well, that's one OS I've never used.  But isn't XP geared more toward desktop use while this WTS, form what you are saying, is a server.  How can they be compared?  

[softwarecreator]

.... a guy like softwarecreator would have to find another paying profession.

I have a solid 3 year contract.  Beyond that ... well who knows?

I honestly don't see Open Source as a real threat to my career.  I think it'll take 10+ years for Linux to be a force against MS.  I already know C++, C, Java and PHP, as well as all MS languages, so I'll be okay.  I adapt to changes pretty well, I guess.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Sure.

It's all the equipment's fault.

Hypocrite.

[FLAMING DEATH]

You seem like a pretty laid back type of guy.

GE, are you watching this? This guy can question the concept of OSS without drawing flames to himself...

You watching, GE? Figure it out yet? You need to be more like this guy.

Hear me?

Thanks for coming on here and posting, softwarecreator. You're a reminder to us Linux users that people can not care much for Linux and still not act like horses' butts about it.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Gotta disagree with the prior poster that said ME was XP with a 9X kernel....it was more like a 9X kernel with Windows 2000's looks and (some) features.

That'd be me as well. The reason for the comparrison to XP is the system restore feature, unique to Windows ME and Windows XP.

i have to agree with your comments. i have Windows ME on two machines, a Toshiba Satellite laptop, and a custom built system that was given to me. Windows ME has more than met my needs on those machines. Oddly enough, the only problems i've had were with Internet Explorer.

[softwarecreator]

You seem like a pretty laid back type of guy

The new meds I've been taking are working pretty good, huh?

[MikefromOhio]

WTS is a user desktop when you don't have a windows machine, as in, say you are using a Sun Blade and you need to access Windows, WTS is the tool we use at WPAFB.....

It's actually very similar to XP but, as you said, it's run directly on the server.

If XP was nearly as stable as WTS, well, it isn't so why bother?

[softwarecreator]

WTS is a user desktop when you don't have a windows machine, as in, say you are using a Sun Blade and you need to access Windows

Ah, I see now.  Thanks for the info.

If XP was nearly as stable as WTS, well, it isn't so why bother?

I like XP overall, but you are right it's way too unstable, particularly when running for a long period of time.  

[Golden Eagle]

LOL, "Flaming Death" calls for peace.

[Golden Eagle]

Oh I'm not predicting Stallman and his ilk will take over the future of the industry, just pointing out what it might be like if they did. Their current attacks on patents and DRM are losing, big in the US.

[rzeznikj at stout]

No, he mentioned that we accept reasoned and logical dissent.

You, OTOH, just disrupt with the same pathetic drivel--and we're tired of it.

If you have a rational and logical viewpoint that we can follow, and then actually defend that argument with hard evidence.

Clearly though, and with all due respect, I highly doubt you're capable of doing that--thus you're little more than an annoying entertainment piece.

[MadIvan]

The benefit for the company is as follows - if they are actually selling the software, even if it is Open Source, it can be sold. Take a look at Suse Linux for an example.

If the company's business is not software, they get the benefit of being able to use the software generated to improve their business.

It's a win-win situation - furthermore, as I said, the costs of development and quality assurance are dropped dramatically by participation in an Open Source project, rather than by doing everything in a proprietary manner.

Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

You're being stupid, as per usual. You are assuming that it's only software companies that would contribute developers to an Open Source project, which is simply not true. Take a hypothetical example - banks often have large IT departments and a good number of developers. It makes sense for a bank for their developers to work on Open Source e-commerce software suites, as the bank doesn't have to assume all the costs of development or QA onto themselves. The software itself is a tool for their business, not the business itself - by embracing Open Source, they have just cut costs, and have subjected the software to a lot more eyes checking for bugs by putting the development, rather than by sticking to the proprietary model.

I don't expect such facts or such logic to move you off your worship of the throne of Bill, but this is actually what is happening. The Economist ran an article about this a couple of months ago.

Ivan

[FLAMING DEATH]

ha!