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North American Union Already Starting to Replace USA
HumanEventsOnline ^ | May 30, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/30/2006 10:01:14 AM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: hedgetrimmer
Stakeholders have two purposes in the corporatist fascist governance model we see taking shape here.

Animal Farm lives and breaths.

181 posted on 05/31/2006 5:11:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Pretty much.


182 posted on 05/31/2006 5:15:48 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: NapkinUser

I'm gonna be ill....


183 posted on 05/31/2006 5:17:28 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (I am your worst nightmare. I am not a racist, terrorist, or nativist. I am an AMERICAN, & I Vote!)
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To: fishtank
That is a good list. It would be nice to include John Hanson, First of seven Presidents of the United States under the Articles of Confederation.

LINK

184 posted on 05/31/2006 5:19:35 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: NapkinUser

what makes anyone think that Congress will be opposed to this? After all, it give them lordship over greater geographical land.


185 posted on 05/31/2006 5:23:37 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead
what makes anyone think that Congress will be opposed to this? After all, it give them lordship over greater geographical land.

Actually it probably gives them insider information to pad their blind trusts.
186 posted on 05/31/2006 5:29:54 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Hadn't seen that one. Thanks!


187 posted on 05/31/2006 5:34:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jason_b
The link I posted is on snopes as an urban legend. This sheds more light.

snopes

188 posted on 05/31/2006 5:35:40 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Anyone who uses the phrase "y'all" is an affront to MY culture. ;-)


189 posted on 05/31/2006 5:41:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: hedgetrimmer; nicmarlo; joanie-f; hinckley buzzard; Borax Queen; calcowgirl; Smartass; texastoo; ...
" It renders the voice of the citizen powerless. By inviting 'stakeholder' participation a meeting rather than a constitutional meeting using Robert's Rules and voting, the citizen can be allowed to 'vent' but no action has to be taken to address any complaints."

When the government acts to deprive a citizen of his voice, then the Constitution lies in tatters. If this is the end game, then at that point there will be in Washington a government that has completely lost both its moral and legal authority to govern.

The crapweasels in Washington would do well to remember this.

190 posted on 05/31/2006 5:45:56 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

Oh! ...I meant to ping you on this other one, too. ...Oops, sorry, but likely you've already seen it...?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641423/posts?page=163#163


191 posted on 05/31/2006 5:46:51 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Smartass

The short story is the cheap crap comes in from China to a brand new Mexican mega-port then gets trucked (rail too) into the United States. Bypassing expensive US ports and their corrupt unions. Mexico also runs a large trade deficit with China. Some of the Chinese goods will be bought by Mexicans and probably sold in Central America too


192 posted on 05/31/2006 5:50:21 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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To: Czar

They won't, though, czar. They're blinded by greed.


193 posted on 05/31/2006 5:52:22 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Arizona Carolyn

LOL, AC, I watched some of the action earlier today!


194 posted on 05/31/2006 5:55:02 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: fishtank

You mean the first retarded president.


195 posted on 05/31/2006 6:01:34 PM PDT by rodeocowboy (Vote Constitution Party in 2006 to send a message to the Republican Party for 2008!)
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To: Czar
That's the whole argument in a nutshell. Washington politicians have lost their moral and Constitutional compass of "a government of the people, by the people, and for the people."   In S-2611, both parties are equally to blame, however, main blame must lay at the feet of our GOP Senators that have gone against the will of the American people.

 

196 posted on 05/31/2006 6:13:34 PM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I'm sorry.

I'm not into Emperor Worship.


197 posted on 05/31/2006 6:13:38 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: hinckley buzzard
Me: implementing policy requires congress.

HB: One would think so, but consider: policy can be shaped by executive order; and is always implemented by the unelected, unaccountable, anonymous bureaucracy. Much as I normally resist the conspiratorial nature of arguments such as this, when I see that it is the only framework that allows Bush's illegals policy to make sense, I shudder. Methinks we are in the early stages of a Kafka-esque nightmare, one which will not dissipate upon awakening. We may have to shoot our way out of this one from fastnesses in the Rockies.

------------------------------------------------------- That's an excellent point about the power of the executive order. And the President, of course, has great power and prevails in many short term disagreements with congress. Congress in particular has a difficult time forcing the president to act.

Congress, though, can stop actions it doesn't like by refusing to fund them. Consider the war powers act - every President, from Carter to Reagan and the others in between politically consider this act requiring notification and consent to be an unwarrented restriction on the rights of the commander in chief. But they all comply with it because otherwise congress can refuse to fund the President's actions and policies.

And as excellent a movie as was Red Dawn, I still expect this intra-American conflict to be fought in the media, on the net and at the ballot box not with armed resistance to the government. Now, if Mexico goes leftist like Venezuela we may to adopt a more Israel-like unilateral position but there is still hope we can avoid conflict with our neighbor much less each other.
198 posted on 05/31/2006 6:14:31 PM PDT by gondramB (We may have done a lill' bit of fightin amongst ourselves but you outside people best leave us alone)
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To: dennisw
If all of us aren't believing what were reading and seeing, had better step back, take a deep breath, have another fresh cup of coffee, and start screaming at this bad dream gain.   All I see is a gigantic globalization Archimedean screw turning to screw everything, and everybody in it's path.

 

199 posted on 05/31/2006 6:44:06 PM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: Fruitbat
"As well, will the 50 states stick together should this really begin taking on reality?"

If there were a state, or states that didn't go along with this crazy notion, I would sure as hell be moving there in a heartbeat.

200 posted on 05/31/2006 6:47:58 PM PDT by KoRn
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