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To: pepperhead

You know my theory, but let me repeat it (humor me).

People administering IDs can convey things even unintentionally. We all learned how to read non-verbal language before we read or spoke sentences.

With this bunch it's easy to believe it was overt and intentional, but it didn't have to be.

I think the Investigators, the same guy administering the photo lineup, thought the bunch of them was lying. There was a wall of silence. Even though they had been threatened and rattled - the 18 and 19 years olds held firm in the face of adversity. I think the investigators (they ALWAYS have a theory) most likely thought the 23 old uniamiously voted as Team Captain - David Evans - was one of the only guys the could keep them all in line. So, either they thought he was holding them together or they may have thought if Evans was facing charges and pressure was brought to bear on him, he may back off on the flock or cave and bring the whole thing down like a house of cards.

It's only a theory, but I do know how the media works. Most of these media people run with theories given to them off-the-record or hinted at during a supposed hypothetical conversation. I don't think it was a coincidence that Geraldo was on National TV with O'Reilly saying that the week of the indictments he expected the soft white boys to run to the DA to get plea deals to avoid 20 year sentences.

I think someone on the Prosecution side of house was floating those theories and it also explains why the media was also so sure the team was guilty. Ostensibly they were not going to run and plead to crimes they didn't commit.

How many times has a Doctor or Nurse asked you questions during or after a test and you KNEW from the question or their reaction there was a problem with the test?
If the prosecution thought this was the guy, they could've easily telegraphed it before the offical lineup process. If I keep asking you questions about one guy and keep showing you his picture. It doesn't take long to pick up on the fact that you have suspicions about that guy.


42 posted on 05/28/2006 6:58:00 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: Mike Nifong
I don't think it was a coincidence that Geraldo was on National TV with O'Reilly saying that the week of the indictments he expected the soft white boys to run to the DA to get plea deals to avoid 20 year sentences. I think someone on the Prosecution side of house was floating those theories and it also explains why the media was also so sure the team was guilty.

Think the DA might be floating this?--

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1639275/posts?q=1&&page=58#58

45 posted on 05/28/2006 7:34:51 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Mike Nifong
If the prosecution thought this was the guy, they could've easily telegraphed it before the offical lineup process.

Maybe eventually, but I think the evidence indicates differently at least at first. Here is my conjecture on the IDs:

Photo array number 1, 16 March 2006: I suspect there are fillers in this one as this is three days after the party and Nifong is yet to be directly involved. Mangum fails to ID any lacross players. The investigators are not too worried afterall they have DNA evidence.

Photo array number 2, 21 March 2006: Nifong has stepped in and ordered the DPD to violate their own policy and give her the multiple choice quiz with no wrong answers, ie a photo array with no fillers. She of course fails it and does not pick anyone. No big deal still, they still have DNA test results coming. [Part of the reason I conjecture this is that Nifong says at the 11 April 2006 Forum at NCCU that he will take the case to the grand jury as soon as she IDs someone.]

Photo array number 3, 4 April 2006: Though the first round of DNA tests were not yet officially reported, Nifong probably knew the results. So the pressure is on in this ID. Thus they push her to ID someones in another photo array with no fillers. She picks 4 sort of. I really don't think the police cared who she IDed, except they did not like her IDing the one guy who was not in Durham at the time. So I think they pushed her to ID any three.

So Mangum is so dense or does not want to follow through that she did not easily follow the cues subtle or not, verbal or non-verbal of the officer conducting the photo array until the third one when the pressure is really on.
48 posted on 05/28/2006 8:05:09 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Mike Nifong
If I keep asking you questions about one guy and keep showing you his picture. It doesn't take long to pick up on the fact that you have suspicions about that guy.

Exactly
52 posted on 05/28/2006 8:59:07 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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