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Duke Lacrosse defense: Stories changed ("No one forced me to have sex")
Hearld Sun ^ | 5/26/06

Posted on 05/27/2006 5:24:47 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

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To: Jalapeno

an accident waiting to happen just because there were a couple of strippers at a party? Pleeease. Like it or not they seem like typical college kids. If anyone was an accident waiting to happen it's the girl.


121 posted on 05/27/2006 12:13:48 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: don'tbedenied

I am not a lawyer, I just know a few who drink coffee and gossip...


122 posted on 05/27/2006 12:38:48 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: RDTF

You are right. These parties happen multiple times every day throughout this country without this type of repercussion. These guys had no reason to expect what is happening to them. False accusations, being thrown under the bus by their school and skewered by the news media weren't even in their wildest dreams. Dumb move to allow the black strippers to dance at a party of all white males, yeah. I am glad none of my dumb moves in life have had results like theirs has.
The false accuser has been on a slippery slope for a long time. The next logical progression in the process for her is streetwalking.


123 posted on 05/27/2006 1:06:32 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

You know lots of good info is learned that way. I know it wouldn't work in Ohio, maybe it would in NC.


124 posted on 05/27/2006 1:11:50 PM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"Does it occur to you that perhaps they know someone?"

It's possible. Let me put it this way -- if such a connection is discovered, I wouldn't be surprised. But, personally, I don't think their light punishment is anything but a coincidence.

"Can he convince the woman to drop the charges? Nope."

I don't think there's any other way out. A) He can't just decide on his own not to prosecute -- not now. And B) He certainly can't proceed to trial with what little he's got. It's a joke, approaching prosecutorial misconduct.

She (the AV) has been quoted as saying that she's afraid to proceed, she's getting threatening phone calls, etc., leaving a way out for her (and Nifong). That's what will end up happening. That's the only way this can end. Not that I like it.

125 posted on 05/27/2006 1:38:51 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Interesting agreement. Sounds like something that might go over in Durham. The white boys get charged with something and everybody from Durham gets absolution for their crimes.

Since the white boys don't get charged with rape - that will be enough for hoodlums to start a riot and trash some stores.

Sounds like a great agreement. /sarc


126 posted on 05/27/2006 2:23:13 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jalapeno

Come on. What do you mean, party hard. The drank beer and had parties with high grades. Don't just repeat the lines from media. The police searched high and low the house and the dorm rooms and no drugs whatsoever. How many twenty year old men do you know who don't drink beer. Did you drink beer when you were twenty, I did.

The did make a mistake inviting a skanky stripper, but this whole party hard thing is a media fabrication. did they party harder than other students, louder, perhaps, but to protray these incredibly high achieving Duke students who were succeeding both academically and athletically beyond what 99% of the people in the world can do (and more than the nccu critics) is just false.


127 posted on 05/27/2006 3:16:24 PM PDT by streeeetwise
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To: ladyjane
Well, that's why I live eight miles away in the Marxist enclave of Chapel Hill! We don't riot, we hold symposia and candlelight vigils. /notsarc
128 posted on 05/27/2006 3:28:17 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: FreedomPoster
"Unless they were to get reverse-OJed by a Durham."

If the case EVER goes to trial -- I wonder if the boys are going to be tried by a jury of THEIR peers -- or a jury of Durham's "finest"?

Semper Fi

129 posted on 05/27/2006 3:58:17 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Andy, you are likely right, and I too have had to suffer the long term effect of bringing suites.

But if I were a parent of one of these boys, I would have him transfer to another school and begin several suites, one against Duke, and one against Nifong and the informant. They would take years to reach fruition, but maybe it needs to be done?

130 posted on 05/27/2006 4:00:42 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7; Hogeye13; All

Fox The Lineup with Megyn Kendall on now. Teaser: "Is the prosecution's case crumbling?"


131 posted on 05/27/2006 6:04:08 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Thanks. As to the question "Is the prosecution's case crumbling?". I have this question. What case?

He never had one and never will have one.


132 posted on 05/27/2006 6:17:23 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Ken H

Nothing new there. Just amazing how they can get people like that Lis gal. I bet she has to be reminded to come in out of the rain. Is there a mental classification lower than idiot? If there is she is in it.


133 posted on 05/27/2006 6:23:21 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13
Megyn talks about the first lineup, and the fact that she did not ID Evans. Mentions some questions about the qualifications of the SANE examiner. Lisa Weil still has on the kneepads for Nifong.

A good recap of some of what was already discussed here.

134 posted on 05/27/2006 6:28:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

We have been way ahead of them for 24 hours. That Lis or Lisa has tried in two different reports I have watched to use the phrase "post traumatic stress disorder". She has yet to get the four words out in the proper order. Tonight she didn't even get all four out. Just amazing.


135 posted on 05/27/2006 6:37:29 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13
The only fig leaf remaining for Lisa and the like is that Nifong could have a silver bullet in what he turned over to the defense, and that the defense is hiding it. "We don't know everything in those files. We only know what the defense has leaked."

As Mark Furman said, the only thing that could save Nifong is a video of the three indicted players commiting the assault.

_______________________________

Does anyone know when Judge Stpephens will rule on defense motions for Nifong to turn over the evidence from the police notes and cell phone?

136 posted on 05/27/2006 6:47:41 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
It is anyones guess at this point. I believe the next scheduled hearing is for Finnerty sometime in June. Based on the first hearing I don't expect much from this judge. He will probably give Nifong and the DPD plenty of time to finish getting their stories straight.

Regarding a silver bullet that Nifong may have, I can't imagine that something hasn't been leaked. Remember the leaks from the DA's office before the defense got the second DNA report. All the media was giddy over what they had found out. Turned out it was a big nothing. I think the only silver bullet that he is hiding are the things that the defense wants. It will further exonerate their clients.
137 posted on 05/27/2006 7:01:45 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Ken H
Lisa Weil still has on the kneepads for Nifong.

Usually I can not stand the rape nazis and Weil in particular. But at this stage of this case they are so funny, I enjoy watching them. I may have to listen to this on the replay.
138 posted on 05/27/2006 7:05:46 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
From Tucker Carlson's show this week:

WENDY MURPHY, FORMER SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR:  Hi, Tucker. 

CARLSON:  Virtually everything in this case is falling apart.  We learn now from the more than 1,000 pages of evidence that the prosecutor is obliged to turn over to the defense that medical technicians at the hospital found no tearing of any kind, contrary to rumors we had heard, in the alleged victim in this case.  No DNA, of course, has been found from the lacrosse players on her body.  You know, what is there to suggest these guys did anything wrong at all?  I'm kind of confused at this point.

MURPHY:  You know, I have a new nickname for you, Tucker.  I'm going to start calling you Tucker the Sucker.  Because...

CARLSON:  You are being suckered.  You give me-I want evidence on what these guys did.  They've been accused of a very serious crime here. 

MURPHY:  Let me tell you something.  You are being spun like a dumb dog.  Every time the defense just spews nonsense you accept it as fact and you put it on your show. 

139 posted on 05/27/2006 7:55:07 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Yep after being completely wrong about the Bryant case, shows have the completely idiotic Murphy on for this case. If there were any accountability on news shows, people would take them more seriously.


140 posted on 05/27/2006 8:10:13 PM PDT by JLS
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