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Defense Calls for Evidence in Duke Rape Case
WTVD/Durham ^ | May 22, 2006 | AP

Posted on 05/22/2006 4:05:16 PM PDT by zaxxon

Lawyers representing one of three Duke University lacrosse players charged with rape want details about any toxicology tests performed on the accuser, asking in a motion filed Monday whether such evidence even exists.

"No such toxicology report, if it exists, was provided to the defense," wrote attorneys Kirk Osborn and Ernest Conner, referring to nearly 1,300 pages of evidence prosecutors provided to defense attorneys last week. The attorneys represent Reade Seligmann, one of three lacrosse players charged with raping a woman hired to perform as a stripper at a March 13 team party.

Seligmann's attorneys want a judge to order prosecutors to provide any reports "generated from blood, urine or other biological samples" collected from the accuser. In the motion, they cited a story published in Newsweek earlier this month that said District Attorney Mike Nifong "hinted" such tests would reveal the presence of a date-rape drug.

Authorities have said a doctor and specially trained nurse performed a physical exam on the accuser that found evidence of sexual assault. But the nurse who filled out a report on that exam indicted no toxicology tests were performed, according to the defense motion.

Nifong declined to comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


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To: Locomotive Breath
I'll tell you what. Go by a parking lot or a car sales place. It will soon be obvious that the FIRST car your eyes pick out is a WHITE car. It's almost like tunnel vision.

Found that out while following the Sniper case by checking out every lot I passed and even wrote to the FBI.

781 posted on 05/24/2006 4:41:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Waterfall

Yeh...credit card!! Send it to dad, too.


782 posted on 05/24/2006 4:43:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

a call from 12:18 to 12:30, would be good - that is the when Jason Bissey said she went back into the house, 12:30 we see her outside of the door, so those 12 minutes are the only time something could have happen. I guess there maybe a hole between 12:32 and 12:38 as well, but she was pass out on the lawn so....and also apparently there are more photos of this time we have not seen,like her falling down the steps.


783 posted on 05/24/2006 4:56:54 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: stands2reason

It's pretty simple. I believe a SANE is like anyone else, capable of making mistakes, making mistakes of judgment, and just plain letting bias play a role.

Some here threw a hissy fit when I gave that opinion.

I'll invite you to listen to a little more Rush and Hannity, if you don't understand the problem of women using official positions to advance the feminist agenda. It's rampant in society, and unfortunately, so-called victims advocates are some of the worst.

Look at Nancy Grace and Wendy Murphy.

Some of the ladies here gratuitously slung some personal insults my way, then howled when I picked their barbs up and threw them back. So typical of those who love to play the victim.


784 posted on 05/24/2006 5:08:52 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: za_claws
I think her call has to be slightly before 12:18. The other two boys left about that time and were videod at the ATM.

With those two gone, there simply can't be 3 boys in the bathroom.

The times of their calls to the cab company are critical and logged on both ends. They weren't raping her and making the call at the same time

785 posted on 05/24/2006 5:16:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
yes Reade is out of the picture, no matter what, I was just saying, looking at everyone's time-line, what the girls said, the defense, the pictures, Jason Bissey....the only possible chance that something happen is in the window between 12:18-12:30, and she was mistaken w/ the Reade ID and it was someone else.
786 posted on 05/24/2006 5:34:59 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Neverforget01
On a more serious note, would the fact that Nifong refused to hear exculpatory evidence prior to indictments add to any possible charges of prosecutorial misconduct?

AFAIK, he still hasn't examined the accuser's cell phone. It was the first thing seized over 2 months ago!

787 posted on 05/24/2006 5:38:20 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
I think not looking at time stamped photos was a BIG mistake on NiFong's part and in more ways than one.

At this point, NiFong might THINK he knows what the time frame should is but I am absolutely certain that ALL the pictures were released to the press.

NiFong has yet to place ALL 3 BOYS in the bathroom at the same time within an extremely narrow time frame. (Watch for Crystal's time statement to be changed to "it seemed liked 30 minutes"...it seemed like a lifetime".

It's probably why nothing comes out from the prosecutors regarding time.

How many times has Crystal "participated" in rape with some of her clients?? What are the stats on rape as a "favorite male fantasy"?

788 posted on 05/24/2006 5:49:33 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

" They weren't raping her and making the call at the same time.."

Not according to Gloria Allred's daughter, Lisa Bloom.
She was subbing a few weeks ago ( ? Crier ) and said that the phone logs do not exonerate Seligman, because of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. I kid you, not.
It's possible to multitask-if you will.
Of course, the difference between a leisurely, consensual relationship and a rushed act of violent rape/sodomy escaped her. Sigh....


789 posted on 05/24/2006 6:14:45 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: streeeetwise

I don't know about millions of dollars, but I know about One million.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008DDJ4/103-5899834-3063051?v=glance&n=130

I know this case pretty well. It sounds a lot like the Duke case, with the races reversed. The Sundary Morning murder had black cops framing a black teenager.


790 posted on 05/24/2006 6:21:10 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Bubba was having what might be called "hands free" sex. Not the same case according to Crystal.

I do hope there is GPS data attached to the Phone call. It is terribly accurate right now. My little $300 Garmin hand unit logged 20 feet difference from a $25,000 unit.

791 posted on 05/24/2006 6:26:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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On Hannity & Colmes now.

Colmes - She told her father she was raped by a broom handle.
Colmes - The 30 man rape was from a overheard conversation.

Does Colmes try to not pay attention to story developments or is he in Nifong's pocket?
792 posted on 05/24/2006 6:30:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Sacajaweau

" I do hope there is GPS data attached to the Phone call"

Do we know if the prosecution has met with the defense to review the cell phone info ?


793 posted on 05/24/2006 6:35:12 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: pepperhead
Does Colmes try to not pay attention to story developments or is he in Nifong's pocket?

Apparently Nifong has let it be known he is not happy with the Hannity & Colmes show. Megyn alluded to it yeterday, and the guest defense attorney on the panel (not Pirro) said the same thing.

Sean brings up the issue of prosecutorial misconduct, Megyn seemed receptive to the idea (my take), but didn't outright say there was.

Hopefully, Dingdong enjoyed tonight's show.

794 posted on 05/24/2006 6:55:36 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: pepperhead
Does Colmes try to not pay attention to story developments or is he in Nifong's pocket?

Colmes is like a typical sports fan. He supports his team, Nifong and Mangum, and suppresses in his mind any information that runs counter to his rooting interest.

This tendency of the left to view all court cases as political sports events and to root for a particular side rather than justice is a huge part of what has gotten the US to where we are with our criminal justice system, particularly in claims of rape.
795 posted on 05/24/2006 7:07:52 PM PDT by JLS
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To: All

Yes, on Hannity and Colmes they were back to the broomstick to explain why there was No DNA.

I just can't believe it. No one on the show said - THERE WAS NO BROOMSTICK ATTACK!


796 posted on 05/24/2006 7:57:43 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: All
On Tucker's show now.

Wendy Murphy - I got a new nickname for you Tucker. "Tucker The Sucker"

I got one for Wendy Murphy. "Wendy The Witch"

797 posted on 05/24/2006 8:06:24 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Sacajaweau

"Kim called the Escort Service???That's what we want to know."

Yes, she tried to get them to give her CGM's address while CGM was passed out in her car at 610. From the N & O:

"At some point, Roberts dressed and left the house. One player helped the accuser into Roberts' car. Players milling in the front yard used racial slurs.

Enraged, Roberts called 911 to complain that men at 610 N. Buchanan had called her and her friend a racist name. Police responded a few minutes later and found an empty yard and house.

Roberts said she couldn't get the other dancer's phone number or address. She talked with the accuser's escort service, but it was of no help, she said. She drove to the 24-hour Kroger, where a security guard suggested calling police. The police tried smelling salts before dragging the unconscious dancer from the car.

Because there was a warrant for her arrest, Roberts told police she picked up the woman on the road, in a crowd of men yelling racial slurs. Police did not ask her name, and Roberts went home."

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/438314.html


798 posted on 05/24/2006 8:11:40 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: All; ltc8k6

O'Reilly's show on 5/23 - Could the Defense attorneys be charged if they are lying?

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O'Reilly's show on 5/24 - All the information coming out now is designed to make this woman look irresponsible

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Of course O'Reilly is not mentioning him cheering for Geraldo when Geraldo predicted on his show that the white boys would run to the DA and cut deals a day or two after the indictment: because they are soft and white.

O'Reilly did not have concerns early on that the Prosecutor may have been cherry picking information he handed out to the media or was lying to the media.


799 posted on 05/24/2006 8:19:33 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Thanks so much for your informative response.

For example, if the defense had communicated to Nifong that they had ironclad evidence that the particular suspect was in another city on the night in question, and Nifong refused to even listen to what their evidence might be, that would clearly be probative of prosecutorial misconduct

What if the DA simply refuses to hear any evidence, i.e. where suspects might have been, or how it would be impossible for them to have committed the crime for any reason? I guess I'm so astounded the boys were indicted solely on the AV's word with little to no investigation and no interrogations. Supposing she was raped and she's picked the wrong guys; the DA's actions will have enabled guilty parties to go free.

I personally don't think a rape took place, but the DA's rush to indict may have eliminated any chance of justice if CGM had been raped.

If she was raped, chances are the rapists will go free. If she wasn't raped 3 college men have been unjustly indicted. Both situations could have been avoided and I believe the DA abused his power to get us to this point. Somehow he should be held accountable imo. I've never thought so little of the legal process. I never believed the old "you can indict a ham sandwich." I guess you can.

800 posted on 05/24/2006 8:41:13 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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